more frustration from those migrants and more overcrowding from officials here as they deal with the surge along the southern border. julia ainsley, thank you. i want to bring in nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. so garrett, this is a complex issue. are lawmakers even talking about what they could possibly do, or are you finding it seems difficult to get lawmakers to discuss this let alone find common ground. reporter: there s plenty of conversation on this issue, and frankly, there has been for years. one republican lawmaker involved in these talks described it to me as saying immigration is the issue on which congress has never failed to fail. there s been tons of ideas put forward about how to approach this, and there will be more next week when house republicans are hoping to put their big immigration bill on the floor. the thing that might be most responsive to this particular crisis is a bipartisan bill put forward by senators tillis and sinema, they s
washington, d.c. ahead of the lift of title 42 next week. sandra: david, thank you. john: meanwhile here in washington, a bipartisan group of senators are pitching legislation to allow the u.s. to expell migrants for another two years. mayorkas is at the border and expected to speak soon. we will see if he has anything to say about the new proposal. but the meantime, we have fox news sunday anchor and news correspondent shannon bream with us. something put forward jointly by sinema, manchin and tillis to provide now expulsion authority for two years after title 42 is off. a plan in place to secure the border, protect arizona communities on the front lines of the crisis and ensure
over those, they ran his initial campaign. it might be a little bit harder for them to do that now that he does not have the excuse of being in the basement, but i assume that they will try. laura: now, stephen, when you hear that the border has been there priority since day one, explain to our audience how that might be true, but only for the illegals crossing the border that it has worked out for them pretty well. yes, it is absolutely true that their priority has been the border, and that sentence to understand to mean to get illegal aliens from the other side of the border into our country and our cities. as you know well, laura, in 2020, we had under president trump every single tool you could ever need or ever dream of to keep the illegal immigrants out of the country. we had title 42 expulsion authority. we had remained in mexico. and we had to see save third agreement come to shift asylum-seekers to foreign countries instead of our soil, what did biden do?
use the title 42 authority that expulsion authority, to the extent that we can. and so, we are incentivizing through these lawful programs that rosa referenced, and we are devising using the authority we are obligated to use right now. i hear you about the federal judge in may of last year but in november the federal judge in d.c. ordered the end of it and now it s up in the hands of the supreme court. you talked about smugglers and this policy but isn t that a hope and not a guarantee but you have a lot of democrats, including four democratic senators, who say they re disappointed in the plan, calling it an inhumane expansion of the trump era title 42 and will further enrich smuggling networks. how do you know it won t? poppy, that is not what we ve seen through the successful launch of precisely the program
previous attempt in the last year. our cameras capturing several groups of migrants apprehended within hours on a recent embed with agents. what does title 42 do for you guys? it certainly is a tool that the cdc offered up as an expulsion authority. but we know it s not going to last forever. reporter: and tonight, migrants like julio, who was expelled once before, say they look forward to the policy s end and the chance to remain in the united states. saying, it gives us the opportunity to process our political asylum. and mireya villarreal joins us now. and bottom line here, how does this pending order halting any early lifting of title 42 actually impact that set date of lifting it on may 23rd? reporter: well, you know, david, the clock is ticking on that temporary restraining order. there will be a larger hearing on may 13th, but as of right now, it s still very unclear if