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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield 20240604 18:43:00

january. then in atlanta tomorrow, former white house chief of staff mark meadows will argue his case in georgia should be transferred from state to federal court. if he succeeds, trump and other defendants will likely try to do the same. with me now to discuss this is jay tom morgan, former district attorney for dekalb county, georgia, which borders fulton county. great to see you. you filed a brief. saying the indictment should stay in state court and not move to federal court. explain why you did that and what your point of view is. good to be with you. i, along with several other district attorneys and judges, both republican and democrat, filed a brief arguing this case should stay in state course. just because mr. meadows, and his case also bb heard tomorrow, are government officials and get

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 00:29:00

proceedings. and that s why they have recognized and they ve drawn these lines with regard to these defenses, the need for a federal defense and also the fact that you ve got to be performing your job. it s not going to be persuasive to simply come in and say, i was president, and i shouldn t have to be accountable to the state of georgia for interfering with and trying to overturn what are, in that case, george s processes for handling the election. so i think courts are going to be very sensitive to that important respect for the state course. when the president does it, it s not a crime. and i think a lot of donald trump s arguments are what he s doing, it s not wrong, it s not a crime because he thinks he was the president, therefore above the law. former deputy u.s. attorney general, always a pleasure. thank you so much for coming on tonight, hopefully we ll have you back on for more conversations like this. next, the timeline of events

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 03:30:00

interfering with and trying to overturn what are in that case george s processes for handling the election. so i think courts are going to be very sensitive to that important respect for the state course. courts. , i was gonna say, it reminds me of that famous nixon line, when the president does it, it s not a crime. and i think a lot of donald trump s arguments are what he s doing, it s not wrong, it s not a crime because he thinks he was the president, and therefore above the law. former deputy u.s. attorney general donald ayer, always a pleasure, sir. hopefully we will have you back on for more conversations like this. next, the timeline of events over just three short months that brought donald trump to his fourth indictment. we re going to break it down for you. (hero fan) uh, yea. i have to watch my neighbors nfl sunday ticket. (josh allen) it s not your best plan. but you know what is? myplan from verizon. switch now

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:51:00

interference, and current msnbc analyst, andrew weissmann. what do you make of what pomeranz is alleging? there s a certain he said he said quality to this. one says apply the rule of law. the other says i amplying the rule of law, nobody would be charged in this situation. i have heard that one of the things that caused a difference between mark pomeranz, and alvin bragg and his senior prosecutors is the use of something called the willful blindness charge. you can t really prove intelligent. you can say somebody sort of closed their eyes to what was going on. that is a standard charge in federal court, and mark pomeranz is a federal prosecutor. he had no state experience going into this. the state prosecutor said that is not something that is charged in state course. there is no ability to bring that kind of charge. they only found one case with one judge who said you could do

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