forward. i bring in dr. neshrod. it s ruled suicide, doctor. what are your thoughts on this finding so far? well, so far, we have to understand, trace, that suicide, when your hyoid bone is broken, usually it s homicidal strangulation. you re choked. my concern is was he injured by his cell mate? he claims he was choked. apparently there were bruises around his neck. did he see a doctor after that injury? was he examined? did he get an x-ray of his neck? maybe, is it possible that he sustained some of these injuries during that time and it s now being picked up? according to the medical examiner, if she s saying that it s suicide, it s like the doctor that you spoke to earlier. you need force. unless if he s about six feet
or how in fact he broke his hyoid bone, which is near the adam s apple in men. according the washington post broke several other bones. we re waiting for a hard copy so we can go through it line by line. the headline is, they re ruling this as a suicide. they have not changed their mind. the question becomes will they answer the questions as to how he got these numerous broken bones. will they answer the questions of what happened on the outside of the neck. was it a straight bruise or various bruises. july 23, epstein had a number of bruises on his neck. he said he was beaten up by a cell mate. they still ruled that as self-inflicted wounds. that s where they placed him on suicide watch and six days later, for some reason because of pressure from his lawyers and other protocols that are baffling the experts, he s taken
are looking at what went wrong. this is standard protocol after a significant event like this one. one of the key questions as we ve been talking really for days, is the number of correctional staff at mcc who were on these overtime shifts before and after the epstein suicide. we can now report officials have found, and this is really an incredible number, 93% of that overtime they were serving was voluntary by those staff. also for context, this happened in new york, but there s a lot happening here in washington, d.c. there are five separate investigations that have been launched including the justice department, the fbi, and multiple congressional committees. charles? thank you very much, catherine. former d.o.j. prosecutor jim troxy. five separate investigations, everyone wants to know why there were no prison bardz, why did he have a bunk bed, where was the cell phone, no cameras. we hd than excellent forensic
do they take this thing at face value and agree suicide and move on or do the numerous alleged victims of jeffery epstein and others want to pursue this further. they want to find out more. that is what is yet to be seen. right now the bottom line from the medical examiner is they re maintaining that the wounds were self-inflicted and it was suicide. charles? charles: thanks, trace. one of the people that may not accept these findings and trace just referenced him, cyril wecht. he joins me on the phone. i m here. charles: hi. yesterday you were skeptical about the notion that his hyoid broken could have been broken. now we have the official autopsy report what are your thoughts? did i hear your reporter in his comment say that he was
is there enough force to break the bone. that s one of the things they ll look at it they re going to look at the timing of this whole thing. in that we want to look to bryan llenas. he s been covering this thing from the beginning. bryan, when you hear this, that it s ruled a suicide and dr. wecht says, look, he doesn t think there s enough velocity to break that hyoid bone, that kind of fits with the narrative that we ve been hearing all week from critics. it does. i will say this. dr. wecht, with all of the years, his opinion does matter here. when you read and see and speak to other folks, they have always said the hyoid bone has been a point of contention. the chief medical examiner has said that this was a suicide by hanging. we re waiting on the full report. i know when you speak to the