men, husbands or we ve, you try toy keep something secret it s so morally embarrassing, rudy guiliani says, no, it happens all the time we have a slush fund. that s your queen sacrifice. yeah, we do this all the time, he s always messing around, covering it up with money. it s not an election violation. it s just who he is. that was just events. what is rudy guiliani go to say tomorrow on fox and friends, how does he explain the russian piece of this? the problem is you never sent rudy guiliani out into the press. have we not learned that yet. there is no amount of talking points that will be quoted back. he will say whatever comes to his mind. what is he going to say? he s always taken money from the russians? i don t think he will say. that i thought schneiderman would keep stormy daniels out of the press for a day. avenotti made sure that wasn t going to happen. journalists said to me recently the kind of thing, a pulitzer prize in 2008 happens four-to-five times a week now.
questions. the question of did president trump lie to the american people when he said he didn t know about this and is there an election violation? we now know he lied to the american people, you can use the word bs, whatever you want to use. he was asked directly and did not tell the truth. the fec violation is still an open question. he said months could refer to not just two or three it could refer to significantly before. they do not know if he knew about this before the election. yeah. i agree with van about how baffling it is that they don t understand that the easiest way to move past this is just to put out a few sentences in clear english of what happened. i mean, does anyone think it s off brand for donald trump to have had a one-night stand with someone? i hate to say its no no no. his supporters knew who he
there and turn a blind eye to the president. a couple of the main reasons is because he stands for, pro-gun. he is against abortion. he s also anti-tax. the pillars of this republican party they are turning a blind eye to all of his other stuff but he is standing up for these issues. that s wrong. the president of the united states is no matter what you want to say, is a moral leader of not just the nation but the world. it is seems like he has fallen down on morality. to over simplify this and put it in stark questions. did president trump lie about this and is there an election violation.
cohen s evidence or mueller s team looking at much more serious charges, they go to work every day no matter what rudy giuliani says on tv. let me ask about wire fraud. the idea that maybe prosecuters are thinking about something that s a little more serious than an election violation. part of the thing i think people don t know a lot about election violations, because they don t tend to be high profile. there s a sense that election stuff is not as serious. wire fraud is serious. well, they re both serious. a criminal charge that involved raiding the office of the president of the united states s personal attorney is serious. and it s being reported that part of what they were looking for wasvidencef campaign finance violations. i would not consider that a minor potential prosecution at all. all right. i want to bring in paul ryan now, vice president of policy and litigation at common cause. his organization first brought
pattern that there were more payments looic this? because the more there are, the more it raises the question about election violation? yeah, i m sure there are more. just too many women have come forward with stories and we don t know the details how many of them were paid. if so, how much, by whom, you know, how close in proximity to the election is really critical. because the closer to the election, the greater the chance that investigators will say that s a campaign finance violation. see, the defense to that would be, and it s fine to assert this, that president trump or somebody working on his behalf would have made the payments anyway to protect his personal privacy. to protect his family from knowing that he was doing these things. that s a defense. even if you make the payments to the benefit of the candidate, if the payments would have been made anyway, defense, might not be any charges. that s right. but the more there are, hardest it is to make that