i guess he didn t want to leave paris. what do you think of the body language? this is a guy who prides himself on leadership. this is a way to demonstrably show. i have a relationship with macron. we re going to move forward. and i think there is also a little bit of masculinity there, a little bit of trying to be the alpha male. i think so. no doubt. and, david axelrod, i want to switch gears a bit. you sat down with congressman john lewis, civil rights movement. let s play a clip from your interview which will air on the axe files. let s listen. in terms of where we are today, you ve been pretty harsh in your criticism of the president of the united states. you at times compared him to george wallace who was the governor who presided over those state troopers who attacked you on the edmond pettis bridge. that s pretty tough criticism. well, you know, i think the
52 years ago tuesday this was the scene in selma, alabama, as police turned on a peaceful crowd marching for voting rights. the day now known as bloody sunday. msnbc s tremane lee is in selma for the an verniversary. why does this year hold particular significance? reporter: every year since that year, 1965, there s been special significance here in selma. they kicked off the voting rights and i am here at brown chapel which really was the staging ground where much of the planning for the selma to montgomery march had been staged. you can see behind me, there are a couple hundred people that in about an hour will rally outside of this church and march a half a mile to the edmond pettis bridge where as you mentioned, bloody sunday occurred where so many marchers who were pushing for voting rights were met by
the edmond pettis bridge will be held this afternoon. we ll take you to selma in just a little bit. the former spy chief to president trump s claim that former president obama ordered the wiretapping of trump tower during the 2016 election and here s more of james clapper on meet the press . if something like that happened, would this be something you would be aware of? i would certainly hope so. i can say obviously, i can t speak officially anymore, but i will say that for the part of the national security apparatus that i oversaw as dni, was there no thought to wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time, as the candidate or against his campaign. there is no fisa order? not to my knowledge. of anything at trump touer? no. i want to bring in national security intelligence and national security reporter ken delane p delaney. we heard from james clapper right there, does it lay
back or have been ended. this is a direct attack. this is the same thing that was done in post-deconstruction after reconstruction in the 1800s. so reverend barber, as you know, i live in winston-salem, north carolina now teaching students, and i will be there with msnbc cameras to capture the work you all are doing. i look forward to seeing you tomorrow in winston-salem, north carolina, and who knows who else will make an appearance. before we go to break, we want to give a shout-out to a man who has served for 50 years now. this may have been the week in which he won comic con. congressman john lewis brought a page and a new institution to life yesterday when he appeared at comic con wearing a trench coat and a backpack recreating the outfit he wore when marching across the edmond pettis bridge in alabama in 1965.
many people forget 50 years ago, yes, we had the edmond pettis bridge, but we also had the riots. so a lot of people that romanticize the civil rights era, don t want to acknowledge, even in dr. king s days when watts was burning. you always have had people acting in a way that ends up adding more than it is solving the problem. and it s usually police incidents that bring this on. when people feel they have no way of redress with law enforcement, they explode. that is not to excuse it or rationalize it. but that is the reality. i would want to work with them to show what works and what doesn t. the priority must be change and