the bumper is 17 inches, but it can only be 16.7 inches and you can t bring this in. the kind of stuff that the chinese are doing right now. neil. i agree with dagen, they need us as much as we need them. if our companies stop using china to move the products, the economy would collapse. and by the way, we ve called them out. not this administration, not this information. and every six months. and doing their best. chicken feet in beer and he won t call them out. so much you can do. could you do this very you know, could i say what you want about geithner and all of these guys, they are he acting rationally, we don t have that much power. i disagree, i disagree, when you come you of all people.