We know that he and one other person in the campaign knew of fusion by name. today in court, mr. elias told jurors given who i represent, i tend to not want more people to know about it than have to know about it. while elias as you mentioned is not on trial, his former law partner michael sussmann, another clinton campaign lawyer is charged with lying to the fbi. the government is trying to press elias on e-mail communications between elias, fusion gps and sussmann. federal prosecutor told the jury that sussmann tried to use the fbi, manipulate the fbi by walking in and saying he wanted the fbi to investigate something an average citizen just typically cannot do. two months before the 2016 election, sussmann said he had information about a secret back channel where trump organization servers were talking to servers in russia with alpha bank. that information turned out to
well, look, presidential records is something that each white house gets briefed on extensively before you begin and in your first week there the records preservation, the e-mails, and particularly we have seen a proliferation of e-mail communications, you know, if you communicate on personal e-mail you have to send that into your government e-mail so it s part of the presidential records, and even presidential tweets from staff and presidents are part of those presidential records, so it s a serious law. the archives is somebody that overseas that again with a high degree of seriousness. what has been interesting about this story is we have seen a lot of these stories during the trump era, outrage, things that looked to be out of the norm of the way administrations have dealt with these things in the past, and i wonder if this will come and go like many of those,
To say but it doesn t mean what debris disclosed is not true. what is the current status of any discussions or negotiations you ve had with the senate judiciary committee? because as recently as a few hours ago chairman grassley said that ms. ramirez s legal team was just referring the committee to the new yorker article and giving no other comment. he also said and i m quoting, if ms. ramirez submits evidence and testimony to the senate judiciary committee which committee investigators have requested we can decide how to proceed. yeah, i don t know where the senator is getting that information from. we ve had a number of e-mail communications with the committee so far, but the difficulty is he every time we try to set up a phone call the majority party either changes the rules of the phone call or they want additional information as a condition of even having a phone call with us. we finally had a phone call scheduled for 7:00 eastern this evening. we got on the phone and only
Them to say no. what does it say to you as a former investigator, frank, that they are looking for these groups we knew the flames of them. looking for that information and also looking for information on trump s mental stability. it s the first significant sign of life we had from the select committee following the testimony of the police officers. this is a very broad records request. i want to try to set expectations here first. let s remember the former president was not someone who engaged in e-mail communications. let s not get excited that we re going to find some smoking gun e-mail communication. there must be some predication here. i do not believe and certainly if we re use the model they