to 51 votes, using reconciliation, the question becomes do you have the votes in the house. look at the math quickly. it passed in the house with 220 votes, just two votes to spare for the democrats. three democrats have left the house, two resigned for other offices, one member died, a couple others said they re going to change from yes to no. you look at that and you realize this gets through the house only if nancy pelosi turns no votes from last year to yes votes this year. she s good at that. she is. i wouldn t rule her out. i couldn t tell you today how she gets from here to there. democrats i talked to can t tell you how she gets from here to there but she s got a good record of wringing out the votes. i couldn t tell you how she s going to get there. democrats will tell you one of their biggest problems is the sale. a good salesman can sell
great to have all of you here. matt, i ll start with you since you are here with me. cory booker is about to make history in that he is going to testify against a colleague because he does not want senator sessions to become attorney general. here is house senator how senator booker describes the problems, listen to this. please understand these are extraordinary times. we ve seen senator jeff sessions voting against everything from the matthew shepherd act or speaking around ideals around the voting rights act. taking measures to try to block criminal justice reform. he has a posture and positioning that i think represent a real danger to our country and even nations. so matt, how is that going to go? we ve been hearing a long time the wringing of the hands how the senators used to get along and there used to be bipartisan compromise and cooperation. this is an example of democrats
anti-hillary ads get? what difference does it make. and why donald trump is accusing jeb bush of doing a plant. i don t think that you re a friend to women. when all in starts right now. geek from new york. i m chris hayes. it is exciting, exciting night. i m speak agof the democratic presidential primary finally gets started in ernest as five candidates take the stage in las vegas for their long awaited first debate, it is an uncommonly late start for the nomination process. at this point in the 2008 cycle, the candidates had already debated each other eight times. they started way back in april of 07. this time around, republicans have already faced with each other twice, eating up the horse race coverage, leaving a big vacuum on the democratic side to be filled with mostly hand wringing over e-mail servers. hillary clinton walks into the debate still the clear front-runner leading the field in every national poll but faces
cheapest price for a premium. so it works fine without the individual mandate. we practiced that for 20 years. you don t need it. this was a concoction of academia and insurance companies. it makes sense when you make the argument but human behavior is not what economists predict which happens fairly often. if it gets struck down it s going to be a plus for the president in the long run, probably in the short run a lot of wringing of hands. governor, let s talk about the practical impact, though, on health care reform on the consumers. what happens if the individual mandate is pulled out? does humpty-dumpty fall off the wall and start all over or you can raise fees and taxes somewhere else? you don t have to. it s minimal. the insurance companies will raise their premiums 1% or 2%. there are not many people that cheat. there are a few free riders but not many. that s the way human behavior is. if you were 55 years old and you didn t have insurance because you lost your job, and sud
recession. and he s right. that impairs job creation by taking me money from the very people, primarily small business folks, who will create most of the jobs cming out of the recession. let me ask you this, is there any potential deal that s still possible, an if it s smaller? ell, as i said, after wringing out the larger deals that tried to focus on entitlement reform, onax reform, so we could have more of a pro-growth economy, we finally said, is there anything that our democratic friends would be willing to cut? and we turned back to those items that we had discussed and had pretty good agreement on. but they weren t even willing to reduce that spending unless we also increased taxes. and as i said, they didn t want to do the revenue increases the way the toomey plan, as it was called senator toomey. would have provided. the reason we did it that way was so that it wouldn t afct the tax code that goes right to business decisns, investment disions. leave th alone so ther