circles, the information that is moving around as far as what the commissioner referred to as far as the four deaths, but i think at this point we re not ready to quite report that, at least i m not, but we do know that multiple people have been injured and it happened at an office belonging to this newspaper. reporters at the newspaper have tweeted and you ve read those as far as the shooting happening there. i want to talk to you, clint and joyce, both about these dueling you know, we have the sense as a culture that we re becoming numb to this, but we also have if these reports turnout not to be true, four families whose lives are potentially shattered forever. there will be the day before this happened, there will be before 2:43 p.m. on thursday, june 28, and there will be everything that comes next. so we should never, ever, ever sort of do anything to permit the becoming desensitized to these, each and every one of them. if one person lost their life
this is a huge problem. we have the house which is considering two broader pieces of immigration. the senate has three or four options. no one has called us around one. we ve seen for decades that congress isn t able to move on immigration reform en in light of these humanitarian disasters. i don t see any will on the hill to address this. we could end up debating this for weeks if not months to come. katty kay, you heard the president not, red meat crowd, top of minnesota talking about almost a glancing mention of how we signed the executive order today but the border is going to be just as tough as ever. talk about the dueling trumps, if you will. i m not sure there really are dueling trumps. i think the president was dragged into having to reverse himself on this very one issue of separating parents from their children when they cross into the country. but when you listen to him throughout the course of the day, his gut is still hard line on this.
act and doing this executive order today, trump may have taken the spotlight off himself, but the importance of the issue won t go away because of the new executive order being in effect. and congress will, of course, rush in and act immediately. well known expeditiously act in congress. this is a huge problem. we have the house which is considering two broader pieces of immigration. the senate has three or four options. no one has called us around one. we ve seen for decades that congress isn t able to move on immigration reform even in light of these humanitarian disasters. i don t see any will on the hill to address this. we could end up debating this for weeks if not months to come. katty kay, you heard the president not, red meat crowd, top of minnesota talking about almost a glancing mention of how we signed the executive order today but the border is going to be just as tough as ever. talk about the dueling trumps, if you will. i m not sure there really are dueling trump
we ve seen for decades that congress isn t able to move on immigration reform even in light of these humanitarian disasters. i don t see any will on the hill to address this. we could end up debating this for weeks if not months to come. katty kay, you heard the president not, red meat crowd, top of minnesota talking about almost a glancing mention of how we signed the executive order today but the border is going to be just as tough as ever. talk about the dueling trumps, if you will. i m not sure there really are dueling trumps. i think the president was dragged into having to reverse himself on this very one issue of separating parents from their children when they cross into the country. but when you listen to him throughout the course of the day, his gut is still hard line on this. when he talked about not wanting to be weak, wanting to be strong, actually, i would like to be strong even if that s unpalatable to people. that s where the president is. it s just that he had so m
remember, there are these dueling parallel investigations between what mueller is doing in terms of a criminal probe, about whether or not an american citizen has somehow colluded, or whether there s a legislative action that can be taken to prevent what s actually going to occur perhaps in the midterms and in the next general presidential election in 2020. in a way of addressing both of these, a failure to effectively sanction, we have to call to attention there have been these dueling, competing parallel investigations. neither seems to have had a sufficient impact on russia, but for the talking indictment that was led by mueller of those 13 russian nationals that addressed how it was done. but you know, remember mcmaster also came out weeks ago and said that it was clear and it was incontrovertible that the russians were bad guys and had hacked the election, et cetera. late in the game to say it. it took a long time. but the president wasn t happy about it. so now mcmaster s l