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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 11:56:00

Rest of our captivity. we continue to follow the stunning news out of the supreme court this morning, a draft majority opinion obtained by politico suggests the high court will strike down roe v. wade that they already voted on this, though it is preliminary at this point. what this could mean for other landmark decisions as well. and later this morning, president biden will see some of the weaponry being sent to ukraine, yohe ll see it firstha. and in the dark. but what if you could begin to see the signs of hope all around you? what if you could let in the lyte? didiscover caplyta. caplyta is a once-daily pill, proven to deliver significant relief from bipolar depression. unlike some medicines that only treat bipolar i, caplyta treats both bipolar i and bipolar ii depression. and, in clinical trials, feelings of inner restlessness and weight gain were not common. caplyta can cause serious side effects. call your doctor about sudden mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts ri

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 08:08:00

Such short notice, i realize four minutes ago you would be on tv talking with me about this on tv tonight. no problem, rachel. i will not press you on the sourcing but i want to press you on your confidence nur sourcing. obviously this is a very unusual if not completely historically unprecedented week, a document that purports to be the draft majority opinion of the supreme court before they had issued any such ruling, can you just tell us about your confidence in the authenticity of the document. well, we re very confident in the authenticity of this draft majority opinion, rachel. both in the way that we obtained it and other information that we got that supports its authenticity and makes us believe that it is genuine. now, of course, it is not a final opinion. it s a draft opinion. it was circulated in the court as a first draft by justice alito in february, dated february 10th.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 04:04:00

In the authenticity of this draft majority opinion rachel both in the way that we obtained, it and other information that we got that supports its authenticity, and makes us believe, it was circulated in the court as a first draft by justice alito, in february, dated february 10th. so it is possible there vincent and sit changes since then, but our best understanding of where the court stood at that time, which is about two and a half months after arguments in this federal mississippi abortion case. and you report, josh, and forgive me if i get any of these details wrong, i am learning this isn t talking about it, which is always dangerous. but you report that the court

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 08:16:00

Y, because it s different, and yet it often does get applied that way. but there s no question, he s trying to keep this confined to the issue of abortion. and of course, that s funny, that s telling itself, right, that you would be willing to say, it s just about abortion and not about anything important, don t worry, tells you the frame of mind of, the frame of mind behind people who would make this kind of a change. let me ask you about one last piece of this, josh. since we ve been on the air, since we received your reporting tonight, since you published, we, on my show, have contacted four former clerks for supreme court justices, all of whom uniformly told us that the document that you published tonight appears to be a legitimate work product of the court, meaning it just matches in form, style, and texture of the kind of product that they as clerks were used to seeing as a draft majority opinion.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 08:05:00

Apple. none of that is surprising but to have this draft opinion on the internet is shocking. it is shocking as you said and as we started discussing here, it is shocking both in substance and also shocking in terms of what it means about the court, and what it means about the stakes here that someone was willing to do this. it is just a remarkable thing. chris, thank you for handling as legitimately breaking, sort of overwhelming breaking news. i m going to pick this up right now, including with the reporter who just broke this story. thank you, my friend. thank you. before i bring on josh, the reporter who just broke this story at politico, let me just summarize once again this breaking news that chris hayes and i are both doing our best to respond to. the headline at politico .com right now, breaking in the last few minutes is this, united states supreme court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows. according to an initial draft majority opinion rin by j

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