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slim. that s probably the calculation they re making. certainly and i m even hearing some calculations with democrats. i m hearing she s doing internal polling to see where her base is. so this is a consideration that is being made across the board. doug jones, this is the guy who won the seat in alabama that no democrat with us supposed to win but he was the guy banned from hot topics. a lot of black vote came out for him. he managed to get the seat but he wants to hold the seat. take a listen. quite frankly i didn t sit in front of the tv set the entire time the last two or three months. i ve been trying to read this, trying to see if the dots get connected. if that is the case i think it s an impeachable matter but if those dots aren t connected and there are other explanations that i think are consistent with innocence i will go that way too. i ve got to make sure what i
lawmakers return to capitol hill january 6th. but while they ve been on break we ve heard senators on both sides deviate from their party s messaging. republican lisa murkowski said she s disturbed by senator mitch mcconnell s coordination with the white house and democrat doug jones suggested the dots aren t connecting for him yet on a case against the president. with me to talk about this, democratic congressman from tennessee, steve cohen. he s been heavily involved in the impeachment process. congressman, first, i want to ask you about what s happening in the senate right now. are you worried that all of the focus on recruiting republicans to remove the president, that your party may have to persuade some moderate democrats like doug jones who at this point don t appear to be in lockstep
open to joining republicans in voting to acquit president trump. listen and let me play doug jones, what he said yesterday. i m trying to see if the dots get connected, to if that is the case, then i think it is a serious matter and i think it is an impeachable matter but if those dots aren t connected and other explanations consistent with innocence i ll go that way too. but what i really want to see is to fill in the gaps. there are gaps. do you think senator jones is leaving the door open there to acquitting the president? well, kate, all i can say is the way i m approaching this trial. every senator has to make a determination about how you prepare and how you approach it. what i m doing right now is going through this report that i just held up, the house intelligence committee report, this is about 200 pages of text and about 1400 footnotes. not that you would read every single foot note but the text is
moderate members of his party, says those gaps were caused by mr. trump s refusal to let officials testify. jones says he s keeping an open mind when the impeachment trial begins. i think these are really serious allegations. i m triying to see if the dots get connected. if that s the case, i think it s a serious, impeachable matter. but if those dots aren t connected and there are other explanations that are consistent with innocence, i will go that way too. what i really want to see is fill in the gaps. people can make up their mind with gaps in testimony, but i would like to see a full and complete picture. so of course now that the president is impeached, as we re referring to, the senate will eventually hold a trial to determine if he should be removed from office. but before that happens, house speaker nancy pelosi has to send over the articles of impeachment, which she says she will not do until a clear and