damage effects on our country. steve: right. and this whole reddit thread is all about people who just posting epic screen shots of how they quit. but the real heroes of this page are who they refer to as the i d lers. figure way to game the system to do as little as possible and still collect a full paycheck. they tell this one story in this story we saw this morning about a person who is getting paid, i think, $90,000 a year and they have written a program so that any email they get from work is automatically responded to by their computer. their computer essentially turns it around and answers the question. they haven t worked in a year. but they still got paid. the woman who moderates the page, a woman by the name of doreen ford she says everybody
and it s good to have rest. that doesn t mean you should be resting all the time or not putting effort into things that you care about. but i think one of those. jesse: what do you think is a good work day? how many hours is, you know, a solid work day in your ideal society? sure, i mean, i think as much as people want. i personally work. i have like a 20, 25 hour workweek which i think is fairly good. so i would like less work hours. what do you do, doreen? i m a dog walker. jesse: a dog walker. yeah. so. jesse: how old are you, if you don t mind me asking? sure, i m 30. jesse: you are 30, okay. is there something you want to do besides being a dog walker? do you aspire anything more than dog-walking or is that your pinnacle? i love working with dogs. if i had to do this the rest of my life, i wouldn t be super complaining, dogs are wonderful animals but i would love to
teach. i would love to work with people and stuff like that. jesse: what would you teach, doreen? philosophy, mostly. philosophy. critical thinking, reason, stuff like that. jesse: okay. well, i would love to take your class, doreen. i would just be taking notes the whole time and, you know what? professor very similar schedule then something that you are imagining so i think that actually might work perfectly. listen, i think this might not be the greatest idea but who am i to judge? to each their own, they say. it s a free country. sure. yeah. jesse: not everything is free but it is a free country. thank you so much. we have got to run. we have got to pay the bills. next on jesse watters primetime infected monkeys on the loose how they escaped and what to look out for. that s next. allergies with nasal congestion overwhelming you?
want to work at all. a reddit page called anti-work, unemployment for all, not just the rich, provides a safe space for these like-minded people who want to do as little as possible and still get paid. the page has become one of the most popular on reddit. there is now over 1.6 million subscribers. joining me now is the person who operates this anti-work group doreen ford. all right, so, doreen, why do you like the idea of being home not working but still getting paid by corporate america? yeah, so, this is a misconception about the movement. so, we re a movement where we want to reduce the amount of work that people feel like they are forced to do and so we want to still put an effort, we want to put in labor, but we don t want to necessarily be in a
position where we feel trapped, you know, you just quoted from office space where that person feels very trapped in their job. i think we are calling for a society where there is less of that. but, absolutely people still want to do things. they just want to do things where they feel rewarded and they feel like they are in a good spot in their life and that their job respects them and stuff like that. you know, there are varying positions. jesse: doreen, you are not being forced to work. this isn t slave labor. you have applied for a job. you have agreed to the terms and conditions of the employment. and, you know, can you walk away from that job at any time and quit. so, i don t understand really what this is about except it sounds like maybe people are just being lazy? are you encouraging people to be lazy? so i think laziness is a virtue in a society where people constantly want you to be productive 24/7.