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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:11:00

But also that it was safe enough to walk those streets. that told you how much the center of gravity of the battle had shifted and that kyiv essentially has been successfully defended. a few weeks ago it was anything but. nobody knew which way it would go, and indeed it was vladimir putin s plan to take kyiv and to put in a puppet government. what is happening now though is the battle is changing to the east. we are now going to have the first really large set piece battle. you can say it has world war i or world war ii written all over it, but we will face battles of mass in the donbas. the problem is this to some extent is slightly more at van tagous to the russians, they know the terrain better and it is largely depopulated. the president and the vice president of the eu s executive branch met with president zelenskyy in the country s capital on friday. from there the group made the trip to kyiv, to the kyiv suburb

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:26:00

Country, bring the systems forward. boy, that starts to look like a real additional problem for russia. richard, let me ask you, listening to you and the admiral just now, especially the admiral s description of the incoming commander of the russian forces and given their past history over the past four or five weeks, their clear intent in the east of ukraine is to just light it up, just light it up. how do you negotiate with people like that? the short answer is we re not ready to negotiate. this war is not yet ripe for a diplomatic resolution. hopefully that won t be too far off. in part, that will depend on what happens on the battlefield and then what mr. putin is ultimately what his war aims become. he has clearly dialed them down. the question is what does he feel is enough. to put it another way, is the most ukraine ever could or would

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:41:00

Where did the center right and center left go? why did voters flee? it is hugely significant. it wouldn t be too much to say roughly equivalent to the republican party and the republicans vanishing overnight. five years ago a socialist president was in power. now we have the socialist at 2% and we have the center right republicans at under 5%. that was the party of the person who was president until 2012. this is a huge sea change. now, why? i think these parties just really had nothing more to say to the french at a time when issues like security, immigration, growing inequality and technology had created, as we ve seen in other western societies, a lot of unease, disaffection, uncertainty about your future, a feeling of being

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:55:00

Improving intent, proving that donald trump really knew that he lost the election and that the big lie was just that, an effort to steal the election. so having this text from trump jr that while the votes are still being counted acknowledges the loss and then lays out a strategy, it is not just deeply offensive to the american people, and i worry that sometimes we get lost in all of the back and forth on this and don t take that moment to be offended that a sitting president thought it was legitimate to bypass the will of the american people and steal the election for his own, but this provides that key element of proof the government would need to go forward with a prosecution, that they knew they had lost the election, that they continued to engage in efforts to take it from joe biden nonetheless. joyce, i m going to kind of put you on the spot here. joe just actually summed up the situation perfectly on a national basis here.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:52:00

Of electors to focusing efforts on the statutory date of january 6th for certification of the electoral college results. the times reported a lawyer for trump jr confirmed to the times that the text message was sent, but suggested it was someone else s idea that donald trump jr was passing along. it is always someone else, joe. it is never, ever a trump. well, either way it is damning. right. if it is from the son, it is damning. yeah. if he is passing it along from a staff member, it seems to me, richard haass, that is even more damning. you have white house staff saying we own the legislatures in wisconsin, in michigan, in pennsylvania, in georgia, in arizona and all of these states, so it doesn t matter whether we have the most votes or not. we can figure out a way to rig the system to win. what is most remarkable about

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