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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:13:00

think is getting worse by the week. because people are naturally pointing fingers in the natural way to point is up. and he is at the top. greg, there are a lot of lawyers involved in. this on the screen there are a number of lawyers. one of them jen alice is smiling awful big in her mugshot. but trump happens to have himself a new lawyer. that is steve sadow. and this is kind of interesting because steve sadow has represented a lot of people who have come up against georgia s very specific and broad laws. tell me a bit about this. yes, well steve is a veteran criminal defense attorney. so it s not like trump went from a better criminal attorney to a novice. steve has expertise in high profile clients. a number of celebrity clients, and defendants over the years. and someone who is an expert in defending against rico charges. he was really good about

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:28:00

plans and march seen as extraordinary lay quickly to begin a trial. most legal experts don t expect did that soon. but at the same time there still is a possibility and fani willis wants to get this trial going. it s been two plus, years she wouldn t brought this indictment if she wasn t ready for all these different wrinkles that have already come up. so as we, saw with kenneth chesebro s case she will call the bluff. they want a speedy trial she will bring a speedy trial. and so, in this case we could expect her to already be ready to bring donald trump s trial if the judge decides to move this in an expedited fashion. charles coleman, it s not unheard of but harry lippman made a reference to donald trump s campaign strategy. right. that running for president, and possibly becoming president again is probably his best strategy right now. probably the safest strategy. he s facing 91 charges in four different cases at the moment. that s a lot to bet on.

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:03:00

the former president is now facing a total of 91 criminal charges, in four separate cases. a total of 19 defendants in this particular case in georgia including donald trump or indicted in this sweeping election interference case on august the 14th. so, far 12 of them have surrendered to georgia officials. the remaining seven have until noon eastern tomorrow to turn themselves, in after which the district attorney has said that she will sign arrest warrants for those who haven t shown themselves. with that, let s bring in our lead off panel, greg, a political reporter for the atlanta journal-constitution. katie benner, pulitzer prize -winning reporter for the new york times. harry lippman, former united states attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general. and former new york prosecutor and civil rights attorney with me here in studio, charles coleman. it is a moment to this unimportant a for everyone here. uniquely slow, for charles coleman. because as of three minutes and 30

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:05:00

democrats versus republicans. the visual of donald trump, the former president of the united states of america having a mugshot and being held accountable for crimes that he is now accused of having committed was so important for which you will have a trial. correct, and have a trial in the jury of his peers, as the constitution allows to be heard and to be presented. because everybody says he keeps saying, i m in assad, everybody knows. and to be clear, jack smith, and the doj have to do their job. unquestionably, there s no question about, it the burden of proof rests on them and that does not shift. but even, so for that to have occurred is the beginning of restoring that confidence. the public sort of faith in our system that are the bedrock of american democracy. you are gonna left to yourself, probably, because i think you re pretty soon gonna have enough for 24 hours covering this whole thing. but you know, what it s necessary. because it s complicated what s going o

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:31:00

mark meadows came, he answered the questions he needed to answer and he didn t really double vote much. more i know there s a lot of people who feel like he fully cooperated. he gave up tons of information on donald trump. and i think that if that had happened, we would ve seen a little bit more of it in the speaking indictment. jack smith has put up two indictments. he s put in every bit and every segment of information he could find in this indictments. you had a superseding indictment, in florida, around the documents case to show. even more evidence to make a stronger case to the american people for why he s bringing what he would think of as a righteous prosecution. that is not with this january six indictment reads like. you do not see any with that mark meadows went in and spoke to jack smith, and his people and, said these are all the things that the president was thinking. i know that donald trump knew that what he was doing was wrong. you really don t get that sense? it could

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