between anybody who had going to do with fund-raising, never anything to do with the pension and fund-raising side at all. they show sort of a pattern here. i want to ask you about some of these specific cases. you met with somebody in some cases, more than one meeting with people and then they turn around and got business. some of these are unsavory characters. somebody later pleaded guilty to paying kickbacks to get business from the new york state pension fund. somebody later charged with document forgery in a california pension scandal. a third had to return $78,000 in fees because he wasn t licensed to be doing what he is doing. i wonder if people look at this and say whatever the exact sort of bureaucratic web of this is, should the city comptroller be meeting with people who he s who are raising money for him and looking for business from the city. should you be doing that? the one thing i wind up meeting. those are singling out here s three or four people. i had an open d