when you think about the energy costs and the utility bills because of the investments that we are making, that s going to they are going to feel that right away. they are going to feel that right away? they are going to feel that right away. well, let s get this bill passed and see how the mechanics of all that works through. sandra: pass it and see how it works. brian: pass it, jam it through, and finding out, remember what joe manchin did, some drilling, some fossil fuels in there, turns out the parlimentary said yeah, reconciliation is only for finance. all the permitting and things that joe manchin walked away with to help west virginia and other people, and including offshore drilling, that s separate. and if you don t get 60 votes it s not going to pass. republicans are angry and distrusting of democrats they don t believe an stream lining of the permitting process. joe manchin might have walked away with 0. it s a hot number this week, 0.
distinguishing, from my perspective, i was very apprehensive and distrusting before the hearing started, but i think they have done a fair job of getting to the truth and dividing between the the protest and rally that was protected by the first amendment and the unacceptable violence that happened at the capitol. and i appreciate that from the committee. steve does not share those beliefs. i can tell you from personal experience steve sees this as a battle and a war and them simply as attack dogs against the right, and i can understand where his thinking comes from on that, but it hasn t played out that way, and frankly the we need to move past this and only transparency can get it done. dustin, we appreciate you being with us. thank you so much. thank you for having me. new this morning, 44 people
descriptions of what people went through. so we don t pretend anymore, and knowing we can pretend anymore after hearing them, that this was a bunch of nice tourists coming for a visit. a tour of the capital. nice to us ransacking the place. carol, can we switch this a little bit, and talk about supreme court justice clarence thomas and his comments this week about his concern, his concern, about the supreme court. the distrust inside the court. which in all seriousness, i understand it as a result of the leak of that alito draft opinion, yes, they lack of trust for the destruction of trust was in the supreme court. that is a very real thing. i just think it is highly ironic that justice thomas one is worried about the distrusting side of the court, but also that the place is breaking down along political
pretty good news. the other thing to bear in mind from that poll, you had 63% of americans saying they think it s good for people to be skeptical over news. i know a lot of times we can say look at the crisis that there s a decline and trust in the news media. i do worry not so much people are distrusting of the news but rather that they are trusting of the wrong sources. that s actually something that would concern me more. but most americans don t view distrust or skepticism of the news as a bad thing that needs to be fixed, they view that as a feature, not a bug. that s a great point. kristen, thank you for coming on. after the break what is the disinformation in the governor in florida about? they say to combat disinformation and what it can mean and also how it s linked to the ongoing war in ukrainene.
what insane all of these things are perfectly reasonable thanks to have conversations about to bring about and want to discuss and talk about and you are labeled as something terrible for raising common sense concerns so we reach this place of insanity and i hope accountability for the people who brought her for so many people around the country and secondly i hope there s an increased distrust and government and people become better stewards of information and critical thinkers because they think the best thing is to not trust government, what is the government done right and to help society, they have damaged society over the past couple of years people need to be more critical in distrusting, it is healthier. steve: that was a theme of what i said earlier the establishments and list disasters that keep getting it wrong and keep screwing up and they keep trying to boss us around as they are the expert. it s incredibly important what you re saying and the fact that you have spoken o