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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:21:00

there ll be litigation i assume, that will relate to these issues of how the grand jury was used or abused. but it s certainly again, new territory when the doj shifts an investigation at the last minute, to an entirely different venue. okay, so that s mr. trusty, floating the idea that the special counsel s use of a d. c.-based grand jury, the one that has heard this case for months, that that is somehow suspicious and that somehow, prosecutors abused the use of this grand jury, and that that abuse should be litigated before a judge. now enter aileen cannon, the u.s. district judge overseeing that classified documents case down in florida. the day after mr. trusty laid out that argument on fox news, judge cannon issued this ruling. with no prompting from trump s defense team, she just did it on her own. judge cannon pointed to the prosecutors use of an out of district grand jury, the one in washington d. c. to continue to investigate and or seek post indictment hearings.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:22:00

abused the use of this grand jury, and that that abuse should be litigated before a judge. now enter aileen cannon, the u.s. district judge overseeing that classified documents case down in florida. the day after mr. trustee laid out that argument on fox news, judge cannon issued this ruling. with no prompting from trump s defense team, she just did it on her own. judge cannon pointed to the prosecutors use of an out of district grand jury, the one in washington d.c. to continue to investigate and or seek post indictment hearings. she deemed the use of that grand jury suspicious. judge cannon questioned the legal propriety of that move, and she ordered special counsel prosecutors to explain themselves by august 22nd, so that the issue may be litigated. now, either there is a really unusual psychic connection between the mar-a-lago judge and one of trump s former lawyers, or, back with us is

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 08:22:00

now enter aileen cannon, the u.s. district judge overseeing that classified documents case down in florida. the day after mr. trusty laid out that argument on fox news, judge cannon issued this ruling with no prompting from trump s defense team. she just did it on her own. judge cannon pointed to the prosecutor s use of an out of district grand jury, the one in washington, d.c., to continue to investigate and/or seek post-indictment hearings, and she deemed the use of that grand jury suspicious. judge cannon questioned the legal propriety of that move, and she ordered special counsel prosecutors to explain themselves by august 22nd so the issue may be litigated. so either there is really an unusual psychic connection between the mar-a-lago judge or one of trump s former lawyers or back with us is andrew weissman,

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:26:00

terrible thing that there was grand jury proceedings going on in washington, d.c. and in florida. there s absolutely nothing wrong with that. that s normal in a case that began in washington, d.c. with the stealing of the documents, and then it moved to florida, where many of the witnesses are in the. c walt nauta is in d.c. all the time. he may very well have spoken to people. there may be other people involved. taveras testified in d.c.. he may have to clean up his testimony. so there are things that have to happen in the d.c. grand jury. there s absolutely nothing wrong with it. and all she is doing is wasting time, so that she can kick the can down the road. meanwhile, donald trump is attacking a judge chutkan. in response to those attacks, you posted, cynthia, this weekend, quote, trump is either trying to promote the judge, so she acts, he can complaint victim and raise money. or he is completely drenched because his misogynists self cannot function or being told what to do by

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:11:00

of real worry in this selection of cannon, for the jacks mitt team. her raising that is trying to cast doubt on whether it was proper for doj to have used a washington, d.c. grand jury, and then also a grand jury in florida, federal ones, both, to return the indictment. there is nothing wrong with that at all. perhaps, it s in her experience, perhaps it s her bias, you know, trying to do something helpful for the trump team. but by raising that, it reminds me of the specter of going down the rabbit hole that she did with appointing the special master originally. and this could cause a lot of confusion, a lot of delays. so, hopefully, that gets turned around by the court of appeals. and, shan, we ve got this breaking news tonight where the doj have just filed a response within three hours to the trump submission, which was at the very last minute before the 5:00 deadline about this protective order to try and shut him up, to keep sensitive

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