they are going to be more hesitant to talk to the senate because they are facing an interview under oath probably with these new investigators. i think it could create some sort of conflict, even though the democrats on the committee have been saying they wanted this to happen, not sure it s the best thing for the senate investigation. bret: what does it do for the mood at the white house, which has been i think it s fair to say, chaotic. i think that s an understatement. i think this may be a receptive moment. currently trump is looking to have that happen. this ongoing scandal i think in the short term it s probably helped them. there is some stability. they can move on to the fbi director position. but there s got to be some nervousness about where does this investigation grow. the one thing that s an unknown at this point, how does
disadvantage and the president needs to understand these may be nice people to talk to but they are not our friends and he needs to react that way. earlier today, shelby, senator mccain put out a statement. sharing sensitive information with the russians and time he did not spend focusing on russia s aggressive behavior. you re finding increasing criticism along those lines? it s true. it s hard to know what the white house would gain, especially at this time when the pressure is ramping up for an independent investigation into president trump and his campaign s ties to russia. i spoke with an fbi director who said that recruiting is difficult and recruiting for the director position is extremely difficult. this is one of the toughest jobs. you don t get paid a lot of money and candidates have withdrew their names because they don t know if they can stick it out.
eboni: democrats are threatening to hold the position of fbi director hostage, refusing a confirmation vote until a special prosecutor is named in the russian investigation. senator mark warner is the top democrat in the intelligence committee paired he wants the democratic party to refuse to vote on the nomination of a new fbi director until a special prosecutor is appointed. do you support that move? i think there are a lot of democrats who feel that way. he will have to discuss it as a caucus but i would support that move. who the fbi director is is related to who the special prosecutor is. eboni: if the fbi director position is so critical, why are democrats throwing a wrench in the process? i m going to start with you, david. i m not a fan of flat out refusing to appoint these
here you have attorney general jeff sessions will be part of, we understand that interview process taking place today at the department of justice. the very person who had to recuse himself from investigations as it relates to russia and the white house. so how is it that jeff sessions can be part of interviewing any of these four people we understand who may potentially be up for the director position. look, there s been pointed questions raised even more about attorney general sessions involvement in the decision to dismiss director comey because that seems to more directly infringe on his pledge of recusal from anything to do with the russia investigation. particularly now that the president has acknowledged, you know, rather remarkably in his interview with nbc that was on his mind when he made the decision. do you have questions being raised by both legal scholars and democratic house members about whether attorney general sessions has violated his recusal pledge and what the
going on. we got to leave the conversation there but there s more to discuss as we are trying to put the pieces together. shimon and julia thank you both. reminder we are monitoring what s happening outside the deputy of justice. six people have been interviewed today for this fbi director position, we are told a seventh person is likely to be walking in and out as well. you re looking at the six that we know about, senator john cornyn, andrew mckaib, alex fisher, judge garcia and adam lee, senator hudson. senator trump has said he s basically the first person as when he was in the first grade. he said his temperament is not that different, a surprising statement about the u.s. president from the u.s. president. we ll take a closer look with the author of the author, the little boy president. you re live in the cnn next newsroom.