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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:23:00

work. what if? strange how things turned out. barbara had moved back to florida, remarried again. had a daughter. took a job at walmart. but still hailed a candle for david. even as he lay under the ground, practically next door to the very walmart where she worked. what did that do to you? it s and eerie feeling. you know? that he was in that area that i didn t even know about. such an odd coincidence. too odd, maybe? time for a chat. detective velazquez called barbara. got herself invited over to barbara s house. barber seem to have no problem talking about david. she said she cared about him a lot. i say, well, how was david as a father? david became abusive towards johnny, physically and emotionally. verbally. wait a minute. this was a whole new wrinkle. up to know everything about

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:34:00

and sure enough, unlike, that was consistent with the investigation. along with that story came out sounded like a motive. david disappeared, remember, as he was preparing for a visit from his five year old son, john. they decided that david need to be gotten rid of, because they never wanted david to be in johnny s life. david was murdered in cold blood just to keep him out of his son s life? and boom. it click for me all of a sudden. i said, wow. that s over tell custody. that s why he s not here today. that was the motive? that was the motive. that was wolfe s confession to an ex-wife a true story or just alcohol-fueled bravado? there was no way to know for sure. but it was enough to at least bring about the arrest. in october, 2004, of michael wolfe. now living in ohio. but unrest is not a conviction. and as michael wolfe cooled his very sober heels in no ohio jail, he professes innocence to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:57:00

investigation, you know, deep down in their guts are sure that she was at the center of it? did you also sink think so? when i think as a person and but i think as a prosecutor i have to keep them separate. and while i may have believed that barbara was a full participant in this, what i can prove is totally different. so, you made an offer? we made an offer. barbara britton was offered two more years of house arrest and eight years of probation. she would avoid trial, but she had to plead guilty to accessory after the fact in david s murder, meaning she acknowledged knowing about the crime but only after it occurred. something she d always denied. you have to remember, i had the option to go to trial and take it. it s just. taking a chance with 12 to 14 other jurors who would hear a story about a mother harry control freak who very cleverly manipulated men to get them to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:54:00

told a cell mate of his that that s it, you know? pay the price? and i was yes. interesting, but true. wolfe hasn t commented. but keith seltzer, barbara s defense attorney s expressed stick suspected wolfe had a more practical motive. michael wolfe was offered a 15-year plea bargain. to take 15 years and testify against whoever is accomplices might be sure. lo and behold the week after the jury convicts them a first degree murder, there was an option at that point to maybe get that 15 years back. that was his motivation. in other words, santa barbara s attorney, wolfe would sell out barbara anyway he could to get a reduced sentence. of course, there was the uncomfortable fact that the two unprompted confessions he d made to his ex wives, confessions in which heap portrait barbara as a sort of black widow intent of having david killed. well, there are two versions

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:16:00

medical examiner. promising. exhausting. i m there typing a way. typing and typing. it pops up about 100 matches. she was determined. she finally windshield it down to a possible three. one of them really stands out for me. it says, white male, and it says over six foot. david is a tall guy. he s a white male. possibly. those particular bones, just a few. a partial skeleton. told turned up during construction of a walmart parking lot not far from the place where david lived. surface just a year after david died. had been gathering dust in storage for 15 years. the detective went to see a forensic anthropologist. and when the doctor measured the bones when she comes out she says no, it s looking like he s only about five foot nine. still, velazquez had a hunch that she had finally found david jackson. and she was in the sort of

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