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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:37:00

albert david, but they re gonna call him harry. once again, to outward appearances, they seemed the perfect family. what if you knew at the time was that the marriage was fracturing, and diana, at least two charles, seemed unstable. in fact, when she was pregnant with harry, diane threw herself down a flight of stairs. do you believe that that was a suicide attempt? what was that? i think she might have been dispirited at the time. she might have just tripped. that was an attention seek. i certainly don t see it as a suicide attempt. whatever it was, the palace never went public with it. same with an issue with diana s past that and now resurfaced, the lima. the iranian, i believe, was a consequence of the royal life and not be enough to cope with it. did she talk to you about the belinda? she did, she said it was our fault. she would gorge on ice cream, bowls of breakfast cereal, with

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:24:00

dodi al fayed and diana went to dinner at the ritz hotel owned by dodi al fayed s father. a security camera captured their arrival. later that evening, diana called her close friend richard. it was the last conversation that they would ever have. and i could tell from her voice that she was tired, she was anxious about getting home. she was missing william and harry. she hadn t seen them for several weeks. why did she call you? was there anything specific? or just to chat. she called to chat. she had a rough time and she was pretty much fed up with the way that she was being treated by the media, the constant presence of the paparazzi was getting on her nerves. she had given a big interview about her latest campaign, which is about the scourge of landmarks. and she felt that her was being misunderstood. possibly deliberately by the press. so she was frustrated? she was frustrated. and she felt like she had enough, and she wanted to make some big changes in our life. that

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:47:00

i don t know. but she was had a very strong sense that there was a group. not exactly was sanctioning by prince charles. but wishing to do him well. by now, rumors of diana s problems and instability was appearing in the press. diana wanted to set the record straight by telling her version of the story. in a way that she could control. and, without the palace finding out. she knew of an author named andrew morton. who had written a book on sarah ferguson, the duchess of york, and would also start went on diana. so a daring plan was launched. diane agreed to answer questions written by morton. it was her first excursion into confronting the demons inside of herself. so it was a cathartic experience for her. james would act as the go-between, taking morton s questions to diana and secretly recording her answers. they wanted to separate her from it. because blame is a big thing. she didn t want to be blamed

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:24:00

camilla parker bowles, and she saw her as she was going up the aisle. did she ever talk to you about that moment? she just said i knew from that moment that this woman was never going to go away. so long as you both shall live i will. i will. but the show went on in front of hundreds of millions around the world. now, prince and princess of wales, possibly the future king and queen of england. before leaving on their honeymoon, charles and diana gave everyone another picture perfect moment. the photographers, who are sort of in a pit below the palace, showing up to them, kisser, kisser, sir, kisser, and the crowd picked up on this, kiss, kiss! and diana said, you know, why not? it was an electrifying moment. the royal newlyweds set off

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:08:00

shocked. she was absolutely distraught. after the queen had given the orders. her eyes were like pandas. she had been crying so much. but the queen had spoken. and it was, of course, front page news in the london tabloids. nine months after the interview. in august of 1996, the royal divorce was final. it is estimated that diana will get about $26 million as a settlement, as part of the deal. the stunning settlement made even bigger deadlines, but the real story was behind the numbers. as part of the negotiating position, diana said that she would give up her royal status. i think that was a bad thing. she will cease to be her royal highness. effectively, she is being sacked. fired from the royal firm. and that is a public humiliation. she very pointedly said to me, which is also quite an interesting story that william had told her, that when he was king, he would give her title back. and incredibly sweet. very poignant, because when

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