it s interesting that they made that argument, which is not even a legal argument to make. didn t address one of trump s key defenses. they didn t even get into that. one of trump s lawyers in this argued today in court that the government is the, quote, latest boogie man that a special master would need security clearance and, therefore, it could take a while. if they get it if trump s team gets this special master, whether he would need very high security clearance, this is what they are asking for, how much would that slow down the doj s case? that s doj s main argument, that to impose a special master will slow us down, gum up the works. we have to settle on who will be the special master. that person will have to be cleared and they will have to do the review. i think if the judge orders a special master, she will take specific steps to try to make this as streamlined as possible. doj argued in their brief, if you do order a special master,
today stop short of making a final decision at the hearing. we could get her ruling on that any minute. we could soon learn more about what the fbi took in those boxes from trump s home last month. the judge said she s thinking about publically releasing a more detailed list of what was taken from mar-a-lago. this all comes as there is news on another justice department investigation involving trump. the doj s probe into january 6. we are learning the trump s white house counsel, pat cipollone and his former deputy are expected to appear before a grand jury tomorrow. cipollone has been interviewed about the documents at mar-a-lago. they have testified behind closed doors with the january 6 committee. let s begin there. evan perez is in washington. what can you tell us about what happened in the hearing? reporter: it was about a two hour hearing.
understand is that the soul of america is in the tens of millions of hard-working people, of loving families, of law-abiding citizens whom he villified for simply wanting a stronger, safer, and more prosperous country. what the president said earlier in the week thaz semi fascism was a bit of the underpinning for maga philosophy. kevin mccarthy says he has to apologize for that. do you think the president will make a distinction between what he considers the maga philosophy and rank and file republicans? yes. and because he s been beat up over those remarks, which he said in private, that wasn t meant for a public forum, i think he ll soften that language a bit. listen, this speech isn t for kevin mccarthy. this is for the democratic base largely. i ve been out on the campaign trail in recent weeks in georgia and pennsylvania. it s really surprised me when i speak to voters when they say they are principally concerned,
and talked about sunsetting medicare and talked about chopping social security. that was the plan that they put forward. he called that he called that extreme. he called out the maga republicans in the senate for that. that was going to cut taxes on middle class. there has been many times where the president has been very clear about who he is talking about. when it comes to republicans, they are hiding. they are hiding behind by calling us divisive. they are hiding behind that and not taking responsibility for the extreme agenda they put forward in their party by these maga republican office holders. thank you for your time tonight. we will all be watching in just less than 30 minutes. the president speaks then. thanks very much. let me bring in van jones, who is a special advisor to president obama, and jenna goldberg. it s great to have you both. van, let s just jump off where
privilege works. it s whether certain materials go to congress or to courts or the public. that part is a non-starter in terms of how the legal theory works. the second part is, what does it mean? how is it workable you share with one part of the executive branch to conduct an intelligence review and not the other, the fbi, which is a part of the intelligence community that needs to do damage assessment? i don t think she can write it that way. when she goes back and tries to write the order that way, i hope that something else will prevail and she won t try to go down that path. it doesn t seem workable. it s not what executive privilege is about. trump s lawyer today in this hearing also arguing that appointing a special master would restore order, increase trust in the investigation, lower the temperature. the judge asked prosecutors, doj, what s the harm? do you think the trump team is right on that? i think that s a core