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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20210924 07:22:00

not expect to be cooperative, and that likely means litigation. the bigger thing to me, chris, is not so much that they re going straight to subpoenas, it s that they re going straight to the critical witnesses, rather than, in many investigations, where you would start with a lower level people and try to work your way up, and so you would have a better sense of what the rule was of the higher level people. there is no time for that right now, and they are anticipating litigation, so they are between what you would normally do on the back end, you re doing that on the front end so the litigation can play out while they continue to investigate through other entities, other individuals. we should say, steve bannon has talked about his role, and basically planning the rally part of january six, he said so in his podcast he was communicating with december trump potentially on other occasions urging him to focus his efforts on january six, and you were quoted as stating on

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20210924 07:55:00

commandments. one, don t play defense for big pharma. to, remember the promises you made to the american people, remember we just passed in 2018 literally some of them were arguing we should do what they voted yes for, previously. three the american people do not care about process, they don t care if you passed infrastructure this, month or next month. they just want to see you get it done. and lastly, but most importantly, this is about delivering in big bold dynamic ways that people will feel with their pocketbooks they re going to get over this but they have to stop with the circling fires god right away it s funny that you have big firemen because i remember looking at your ads in 20 teen, against an income mid republican. and you did a lot on taking on big former over oxycontin, and opiates. that was a really. you re running in a district that was a trump district, trump had won the district.

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20210924 07:12:00

mishandled the pandemic to prevent exactly this from happening. which is the possibility of losing trump s endorsement. abbott has genuinely seen, he s very conservative but people seem as not a [inaudible] conservative. so he s seen as sort of someone who is holding back. the much crazier people who want his spot. but in the last few months the reason why s approval rating has gone down is because of the covid pandemic in texas, in efforts to prevent a challenge from his rights. and now trump has shown that it actually doesn t matter very much, even if you spend taxpayer money in texas on trying to pay your own wall at the border, trump is if you feel psych it he s still going to come for you. so obviously texas isn t a pretty conservative state, so abbott thinks he has nothing to fear from a general election challenge, from a democrat. because the state is so right a senate. and as a result, he is trying

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20210924 07:11:00

in the near term. so those are not posing credible threats in the way that would alter republicans behavior. and i think one of the things to remember here is the reason so many of these bills have passed is because they had a good election year last year. and so the idea that there is widespread fraud is that it s just not something that s accepted in texas, and i spent more times in texas than i have in recent years, and this is not a common topic of conversation. i don t remember it coming up, and trump s letter kept saying texans think your citizens say. i have just not seen as dense that this is something of a driving concern that mainstream circles in texas. no, because they won. they only think it s fraud one day loss, and that s the whole game, here you have them pushing for this audit and what work is this doing to your mind in the context of the big lie? in the context of the folks who? abbott has consciously

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20210924 07:24:00

executive privilege right now, not donald trump, and donald trump is no longer the president, so he can say, as he did, oh, i m gonna claim executive privilege to preserve the office of the presidency, hey pal, you are no longer in the office of the presidency. what you think about the office of the presidency s irrelevant. there are some reporting today that the white house is considering turning over some communications that i guess, they have access to precisely under that rationale. well, the white house and the national archives has access to a lot of communication from white house officials and donald trump is threatening to intervene, to file a lawsuit to prevent the national archives from producing sivs documents to the select committee and he s claiming executive privilege will came out today s of the biden administration is likely, reportedly, likely to not claim executive privilege over those documents, to allow them to go

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