democratsy were suddenly talkig about death penalty sentences. is this a death penalty offense? it does certainly suggest a willingness on those associated with trump particular his son ho collude. is receiving information the same as colluding? it could be so construed, but the point is, the problem with the whole scenario about collusion suggested by this is apparently no information was exchanged. no information was obtained. so, if you take the negative interpretation, the collusion didn t occur, at least so far as we know. now, if it turns out that down the road that out of this meeting things turn out that we hadn t heard about, and something did come of it, information was provided courtesy of the kremlin, that would be a different matter entirely. so far, we don t have that.