it is an astounding action to take. yeah. it s astoundingly stupid action to take. dumb thing for him to do, knowing that there would have been u.s. intercepts that would have heard his call. but the other part about this is, so after he lies to the fbi and sally yates comes over two days later and gives the warning to dawn mcgahn, the question has been, why didn t the white house do something about this? because the white house was in on that lie. that s exactly right. we don t know whether they knew that he was lying to the fbi or not but the lie that he told the fbi is the same lie the white house had been telling since sean spicer said it in the clip you played on through the vice president himself saying it on the sunday shows in january. this was a lie that was being told from the top on down. malcolm, what do you say to people today who react to the news and say they got him for lying to the fbi. the thing he lied about isn t collusion. no one gets prosecuted for the log