seem to be true but democrats are like. ilike. [how could you go out and say these things? i don t think this is a bad thing for the party. listen, democrats are a big tent party. and after losing in 2016, i think we need to take a step back and regroup and figure out how to expand the base, how to better reach the middle class. you know, i worked on the hillary campaign. and i think one of the things we didn t do very well was have a tight message. i think now democrats moving forward need to have a better message to the middle class about, you know, just meat and potato topics. how we are going to provide jobs and build a better bridge. melissa: david, they talk about she is torching the democratic party. she goes on shows and boy you are making a lot of enemies in your own tent. i think this is a burning down of the woods to have new growth. that she is doing a favor and she knows it they want to be rid of the clintons at this point. and the hold they have had on the party since
her new target for the democrats demise? former president barack obama. watch. was he good or bad for the country and was he good for the african-american community? he was fantastic for the country. that s another reason why i stepped up to become chair of the democratic party. but, judy, when you lose 900 legislative seats, i m not blaming him for all 932 logic legislative seats, all 60-some house and senate seats, 11 gubernatorial race ares. this happened under his watch. it is the responsibility of the president when is he a democrat to help the democratic party. president obama, michelle obamacare, we all missed him in the white house. but we have to rebuild the democratic party. and that s what i hope to do as well. she is torturing everybody. here now david winner-take-all, he is an -dad wall. michael hopkins democratic strategist who served on both the obama and clinton campaign. thanks to both of you for joining us. michael. hi, mells melissa.
was she right. he was great for america. he didn t grow the democratic apparatus. and that was a choice that he made. he ran as an outsider when he ran for president. he had first obama for america. and then he shifted for organizing for america. that s how he ran. weighs successful in doing it. so now we have to rebuild the party. melissa: david, that s not exactly what she said though. no. what she said when you are a very popular president and out there everyone else in your party gets torchesd and loses their seat in historic numbers during your reign, there is something going on. if it happens on your watch, it is at least partially your fault. yeah and bravo, melissa to donn donna brazile she was te eye of a corrupt hurricane. she had the bravery to discuss in her book what she