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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:22:00

going on main street, on how shelley fell underwater, some locals who knew the way around scuba thought, it didn t add up. certainly, when you go up, and down, it was people on both sides that they can t do. it could it be that it was remotely possible that david swain had something to do with his wife, charles, death? that was a question burning in the mind of shirley s parents, richard, and lisa. ever since swain had returned from the caribbean with her daughter spotty, they demanded answers from their son-in-law. answers that were not forthcoming. in the first moment i heard and kept saying over the phone to him, but you had the buddy system, you were there, you had the buddy system. and he just kept saying, i wasn t there. so they are saying, you are the expert, and you are the caretaker. they were wondering why why did you leave her?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:46:00

every time she had lost a little to fear. i ve won 67. some initial panic. dive one 83, panic. dive to 66, i admit, i panicked. dive to 74, panicked a little, or more. but, what about the prosecution s claim, that if you believe david s description of his dive, he had to have been right there when shelley was drowning, eight minutes after she entered the water? now, the defense said, hang on. how do we know that shelley stopped breathing after eight minutes? in truth, shelley was so petite, she was known for using less air than the average driver. so, if she was only sipping at her air supply, it meant she likely died well after eight minutes into the dive, just as wayne had said. i was not there. by the time this happened, i was hundreds of yards away. but, if shelley had died alone, what about that confounding clue on the ocean floor? her dyson, found stuck toe

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:57:00

jurors to decide at david swain s fate. i m coming to, you live, in the road from the supreme court with the news that the jury is, currently, eight deliberating. then, after only five hours came word. there was a verdict. as a walking, i pretty much knew. how say? is excused, davis wayne, guilty, or not guilty of murder? we, the jury, find the accused guilty. guilty of first degree murder. the sentence? 25 years. ? how do you face a kind of time. one day at a time. give me a quick thumb nail of what your soul was like. six by, ten a few bucks. a commode. a sink. no screens on the bars, so the window, anything, and everything, would come in. bugs? bugs were the easy part. it was the rats, the animals, the other things. that was the hard part.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:12:00

amiss. and it was by all accounts, the leisurely week, going around the caribbean, that all on board had hope for. they dove the british virgin islands critters hits, salt island, peter island, the wreck of the rhone. on the morning of march 12th, they set a course for cooper island, and the site known as the tween rex. tortola diving instructor keith royal has been backed down there hundreds of times. there are two wrecks sitting next to each other, bow to stern, there is a small gap between them. that is fish life. david swain, and his friend were both certified scuba instructors. between them, they had more than 1000 dives between their belts. and shelley tyre was no novice. in her book, she recorded more than 350 dives. now, divers with comparable experience will tell you that diving the twin wrecks site is a nice, flat sandy bottom, great visibility and minimal currents. it is about as challenging as a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:15:00

sticking out of the sand. when you got closer to the wrecks he found shelley herself, lying on the ocean for, face up, eyes open, near one end of the boats. he quickly grabbed her and brought her to the surface. then christine does come back? he does not come back, he surfaces, screaming. what did you hear in his voice? words? alarm? the word was emergency. swain hop in the dinghy and sped over to him. when i got close, i saw that he had another diver with him. as i get closer, i realize that it is shelley. how much trouble was she in? the idea was, she was unresponsive right away, that was a big problem. christian and david say they both attempted cpr, but her body did not respond. david, trained as an emt said she is gone. the part that really got me was, the people flat out not doing anything. that broke my heart, brought

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