0 american people, a lot of folks are going to be hoping that the outcome is different this time around. but at least it is a sign, i think, the optics, for everybody that they are talking to each other. but the government shutdown and stalemate continues. joy? all right, nbc s kristen welker, thank you. and i want to bring in now our panel and with us from washington is political strategist, angela rye. the national review s robert costa from capitol hill and here in new york, msnbc political analyst, jonathan altar. and jonathan, you attended a white house meeting with conservative journalist, charles kraut hammer. sadly, no breitbart.com people invited. but tell me what you talked about and what you think came out of the meeting. i can t talk about the content of the meeting, it was off the record but what i am seeing at the capitol today, is a growing consensus on the republican side that seemed to meet the president midway, open to a short term solution at his press conferen