democratic convention last year. joining us now valerie jarrett, former senior adviser to president obama president obama and david pluff, senior white house adviser to barack obama. he s an msnbc political analyst. valerie, so striking to see colin powell. last year we know he was battling parkinson s and cancer. he was looking as healthy as he ever did at that convention last year. i want to take you back to the 2008 campaign. and when you and barack obama discovered that colin powell was going to endorse senator barack obama for president, when did you find that out? when did president obama find that out? and what did it mean to him when he found that out? i ll tell you, lawrence, first of all, good evening. it s an honor to be here this evening. it s a tough day. but i appreciate the tribute that you and so many others have done to a person i consider to have been a great american.
she put up with a lochlt she took care of the kids when i was, you know, running around. and she was always there for me and she would tell me that s not a good idea. she was usually right. colin powell was 84 years old. . after this break, we ll be joined by valerie jarrett and david pluff. e jarrett and david pluff. s about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start, with about 10 minutes of treatment once every 3 months. so, ask your doctor if botox® is right for you, and if a sample is available. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. don t receive botox® if there s a skin infection. tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or ner
reasons why, it was a good moment for the campaign. and for the country, i think. so valerie, let me just stay with that for a second. so you learned at the same time we did when he told tom brokaw on meet the press? you learned it when he said it publicly? there was no prior tipoff, no call from secretary powell? david is shaking his head. he didn t want to be influenced. he didn t want to be lobbied. he wanted to speak his truth without any editing or scripting by any of us. i think it made it so much more effective and powerful. so, david, it s a big moment in the campaign. you know he s going to make the announcement that s going to happen. the you re about two weeks out. you need everything to go perfectly at this point in the campaign.
same thing with democracies. these are people that didn t have pedigree. they didn t have the guilded elevator. so the example they think they set is going to live through the decades and generations. thank you both very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. thank you, lawrence. good to see you, david. thank you very much. john heilemann and jonathan alter will join us next. john heilemann and jonathan alter will join us next. fermentation? yes, formulated to help your body really truly absorb the natural goodness. new chapter. wellness well done. [ sneeze ] are you ok? oh, it s just a cold. if you have high blood pressure, a cold is not just a cold. unlike other cold medicines, coricidin provides powerful cold relief without raising your blood pressure be there for life s best moments with coricidin. now in sugar free liquid.
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