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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:02:00

shot at point blank range. i was just dumbfounded, shocked at what i saw. how to comprehend? what do you talking about? what do you saying? the husband had an alibi. for ten minutes. he could have done anything. he did. 13 years, three trials, repeals, reversals and changing stories. the big picture here, charles, is that for a lot of people, it sounds like a crime. there is a lot of things about this case that doesn t make sense. it has been a long winding pursuit of justice, as one family sees it. it gets more and more wild. i adopted the saying, that when you enter into the courtroom, lies become truth and the truth becomes lies. but there is another side, another family. one which sees a terrible miscarriage of justice. i wonder if everybody got

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:01:00

i did not do this, i did not do this. she was upset. she felt like history was repeating itself. he wants to have women and his wife was in his way. we are police wrong? it s like the twilight zone. lies become truth and the truth becomes lies. maybe the real killer was still out there. you have lied to the police about this case? yes sir. so devastating. we probably knew that this was the key to solving this. 13 years, 13 years. such an awful crime. the wife. the little boy and girl.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:12:00

times of the murders. and then you d have the holidays, the kid s birthdays in february. did you feel yourself becoming institutionalized? i had to, to a degree. for me, it was a matter of, you know, but sitting back in observing. seeing how things operate so that i could fit in enough to be okay. you know? i had to lock the real meat down inside. how were his spirits? where they sinking? they were sinking only briefly. we have lows. there be times when i talk to him and he sound really down. but he never state there because he couldn t stay there. staying in that despondency, that hopelessness, is excruciating. but now, they re finally seem to be a break in the case. the unknown male dna on the sweat shirt had been identified as charles monet. two days later, they brought

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:04:00

said there was no match when the dna was run through a national criminal database. but sam lockhart says that he approached near investigators to run it through again. they weren t even wanting to talk to me. wanting to show him the unknown dna, in case this guy had been arrested now and you ve got new dna on this data bank, would you run this? no, we can t take it. at the trial, they asked the prosecutor. we started to say please run the dna through the data bank. the state finally ran the dna three months after sam locker started asking about it. lo and behold, we find charles bona. does this name mean anything to? you did not mean a thing. had never heard the name before, was complete shock to me. charles bona, a name that would change everything in the case against david camm. prison amos backbone. as brainy is ted bundy and his brawny s mike tyson.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:07:00

had and you would think on a case in which children and a mom or murdered, ambushed in a garage, that they would bend over backwards to do it right. stan faith was the prosecutor in trial one. the defense said that we ask you the state, the prosecutor, to be sent out and tested against dna. i asked the lead investigator to do that. he said that we did not get anything. in fact he hadn t sent it out at all? i think he sent it out. he hadn t sent the property in. fay said that he had later learned that the prosecutor sent out the wrong dna sample from the sweatshirt. michael daniel, the first defense attorney thought he was a liar. i think he never asked anybody to run. so when he says that the prosecution is lying to him? lying means that you knowingly teller falsehood. i didn t tell a lot.

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