the night at the house. the prosecution laid out this idea that she had been that they had distance between them. they put a tight time line up to monday to suggest, is this person who is capable of a double murder of family able to also see his ailing father in the hospital and also visit his mother who has dementia? they are putting these pieces out for the jury to put in. that was effective. some of that is the first we heard of it. danny, how did he come across to you, aside from the empathy? how would this appeal to a jury? these are local people in the low country of south carolina. he comes from a long line of prosecutors. that s quite a compound. that s an estate. he is using the affectionate nicknames paul paul and bubba.
called this person, no, i didn t really. that s going to be very hard to explain away. the stuff he did with paul, turning him over with a belt and then putting the phone back. all of it seems very discordant. there s so much to talk about now. danny s point about the emotion. we are not in the courtroom. it s a riveting moment. i will just say this. you could already take it either way. it s going to be difficult for him if he is lying to maintain the same affect when it comes to the prosecution and on cross. i have seen witnesses who have a fairly well constructed affect when it comes to their direct testimony, but if pushed a little and they don t cry at the same time, the right time, et cetera. it s not just the detailsaffect we will squeeze in a quick break. we will be right back. we will be right back.
that, frankly, were inconsistent with the way he would have normally done them. that also is sort of bolstering the defense s case in the sense that they know these inconsistent statements he made to police are coming up on cross examination and they can say, look, he made inconsistent statements when it didn t matter. he was upset. he was under duress. he was taking opioids. that explains a lot of what was going on there. we will see how this all plays out during cross examination. there is going to be a lot for prosecutors to work with. he offered a ton of details just in this short period of time on the stand. they are going to have a lot to pick apart. i wouldn t be surprised to see this extend to tomorrow just because of that. danny, you are a defense lawyer. i want to play some. earlier testimony. alex murdaugh was trying to
direct to secretary pompeo in something called a first-person cable, which is not common. where he essentially, his narrative, his direct opinion direct to the secretary of state. and he can lay this all out in very stark detail in part because of all those notes he took. which he says, by the way, the state department has a copy and he has a copy, which i think is very interesting. those notes, unlike the comey memos and things like that wouldn t necessarily be classified. so you wonder if those notes show up in that open hearing too. garrett, thanks for your reporting on this. i think he s going to continue to go through this testimony to bring us some more highlights. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent heidi przybyla. and danny sovalis. danny, i m so used to having you here, having some kind of document and saying to you, there s nothing i understand about this, can you make sense active? this is more of what we believe to be the case. in fact, each piece of testimony or ea
look. vindman s testimony is detailed. taylor s testimony is highly detailed and he talks about numerous instances in which rudy giuliani was involved and mike pompeo and the things he s done. so this doesn t tell a story of disorganization. the narrative, if you just read these transcripts, says lots of people knew what was going on and it was very determined. it was very clear and i think to heidi s point, this idea that democrats are really wanting to focus on a simple story and that simple story is that the president of the united states was telling a foreign government, you need to come to a microphone and say you re investigating joe biden, my political rival, in order to get this military aid that i know you badly need. that s a simple story and it s because the republicans understand that that s a simple story but they re now trying to say, well, actually it s a little more complicated than that, and by the way, this is an unorganized white house. thanks to all three of you