i think, i didn t care that they have weapons. they re not here to hurt me. i remember him saying to the effect of, mark needs to do something more, literally calling the vice president and mark responded something to the effect of, you heard, he doesn t think they re doing anything wrong. the stunning details of an out of touch president, who wanted to join the mob. the president said something to the effect of, i am the effing think president, take me up to the capitol now. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, and said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing. we re not going to the capitol. the president of the united states, his chief of staff, his closest advisers, preparing for the violence, and then, trying to save themselves. i recall hearing the word, oath keepers. and hearing the word, proud boys, closer to the plan of the janua
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