acquiring them is relatively easy for counterterrorism officials to monitor. a truck s just a truck. and this just seems like a very difficult dilemma for counterterrorism officials. it s impossible. and this has two purposes. one is that it tells isis supporters to use the tools at their disposal, just what you have at hand. you can t stop people from hijacking trucks. it s just impossible to do that. then psychologically it tells their victims that every truck is a potential terrorist vehicle, a potential weapon that could kill dozens of people. they really do want to sow the fear of every little thing around you including, you know, vehicles, stones, knives that you would get at a kitchen store, all these things can be used and will be. part of what i think everyone has a hard time getting their head around is when you see such sociopathic evil of driving a truck into people. how could a person get to a place where they can do that and in some ways that s part of the project abo
the run. it is not as welcoming an environment for foreigner as it would have been even a year or two ago. so i think the likelihood is he would find it difficult getting there. the second oppositition is does find the network of radicalizers in germany? there is one problem there. that is not only a problem for him. that is a problem for security services who have looked at you belie you believe authorities at this hour could be playing somewhat of a mind game with him at this point, to lead them to this network. well that is what i would do, if i had any inkling of this where this person was. subject of course to making sure he doesn t commit anymore violent acts. in germany about three weeks ago, they hit about 200 locations, the counterterrorism officials did. and out of those type of
officials have confirmed that they ve opened up a man hunt for the man they believe was at the wheel when a truck drove through berlin s christmas market leaving 12 dead and 48 injured. isis was quick to claim responsibility. so far this year isis has claimed responsible for at least 42 attacks outside of syria and iraq according to the new york times. these attacks come amid reports that isis continues to lose territory and that seems to indicate despite being squeezed out of places it once controlled isis will find ways to continue to terrorize signaling a real dilemma for counterterrorism officials in the west. my next guest spent years interviewing isis members has a new book called the way of the strangers. graeme wood joins me now. let s talk about the truck attack. part of what s so horrifying about it to me is the simplicity here. explosives can go wrong.
officials to monitor. a truck s just a truck. and this just seems like a very difficult dilemma for counterterrorism officials. it s impossible. and this has two purposes. one is that it tells isis supporters to use the tools at their disposal, just what you have at hand. you can t stop people from hijacking trucks. it s just impossible to do that. then psychologically it tells their victims that every truck is a potential terrorist vehicle, a potential weapon that could kill dozens of people. they really do want to sow the fear of every little thing around you including, you know, vehicles, stones, knives that you would get at a kitchen store, all these things can be used and will be. part of what i think everyone has a hard time getting their head around is when you see such sociopathic evil of driving a truck into people. how could a person get to a place where they can do that and in some ways that s part of the project about what this book has
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