your sweep of history in this book is really impressive. what do you think is the essential element in how we got to trump? i think what happened is the republican party had a belief at the elite end that what republicanism was about since barry goldwater was small government, deregulation and tax policy, but if reality what the republican party is about is what nixon said it was about, the so-called silent majority and people who believed that the united states had turned its attention away from core americans, white americans and started to turn its attention toward niche americans. new americans, black americans, immigrants, gay people, everyone that wasn t white christian men and the country is going downhill. donald trump got that. he understood it. how wasn t always a republican but he was always donald trump. he was always that guy and he signaled to people like him that he could set the country back the way it was. and if you look at the data on
book is really impressive. what do you think is the essential element in how we got to trump? i think what happened is the republican party had a belief at the elite end that what republicanism was about since barry goldwater was small government, deregulation and tax policy, but if reality what the republican party is about is what nixon said it was about, the so-called silent majority and people who believed that the united states had turned its attention away from core americans, white americans and started to turn its attention toward niche americans. new americans, black americans, immigrant th immigrants, gay people, everyone that wasn t white christian men and the country is going downhill. donald trump got that. he understood it. how wasn t always a republican but he was always donald trump. he was always that guy and he signaled to people like him that he could set the country back the way it was. and if you look at the data on
how does that work? absolutely. i mean, there was a certain point at which i told my team, this reporting we re doing on the access hollywood video is helping him, this is not hurting him at all. this is actually making him more popular because the reality is what donald trump is is a reset. donald trump is a signaling to certain americans who feel that the country has slidden. there s polling that shows, it, if you believe that america was a better place in the 1950s than now, white christian men had dominion over people culturally, that asked specifically, if you believe that, you re a trumpist, you re for donald trump. what he s signaling in the access hollywood video, e. jean carroll, a man needs to be a man like in the 30s, 40s, and this is hurting white christian men and he s the guy who s going to let them be who they are. he s an avatar for putting things back the way they used to be.
ransom note. huffington post it s more than a racist ransom note from a group of nativists who are willing to dangle 800,000 young teenagers and adults over a cliff while simultaneously replacing core americans values with poison. is the wall going to be built? end of chain migration. end of visa lottery precursor to legalization or citizenship for those in daca. how do you make sure it stays at 1.8 as opposed to a number that could grow larger. rachel: i don t think the number is going to grow larger. i think that president trump has made it very clear. i need these four things. the wall, end of chain migration, more money for border security for the border patrol, and an end to the visa lottery system. that s the deal. he has put it out there and made it super generous. i want to talk to the dreamers that are out there potentially watching, if you know a dreamer. the democrats don t care about you. this is the most generous deal that could are be made
back with something unrealistic and frame it as something people would come to the table on. martha: what i m reading between the lines is your major problem is the amount of money for border security. is that what you d like to see changed? i think that s one piece. i think it s the overhaul of the immigration that s the problem. we re limiting immigration families cannot be brought back together. that s a huge problem. these are core americans. martha: spouses and children are in. go ahead, mark. that s correct. it s limiting chain migration to the nuclear family. most the reforms emily is upset about have bipartisan support and we need a system that is driven by our needs of our country and not just chain migration. the reality is look, if they think $25 billion is too much for 1. 8 million people okay,