with it. martha: this is from michael cohen s statement in february of 2018. this is the kind of information that may be causing a lot of dissension based on the things that you re talking about, jonathan. michael cohen stated this. neither the trump organization or the trump campaign was a part of mrs. clifford and didn t reimburse me. the payment was lawful and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone. that is michael cohen who seems to be all over the map in terms of what he will say in different situations over the course of his career, jonathan. you know, as you point out, costello said you can t trust him. he s a convicted purgerer. martha, this is part of michael cohen s appeal. he used to sell his moral and unethical flexibility.
standard, and i used to be deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york, i wouldn t have touched a guy like michael cohen, especially if he is a convicted purgerer. first of all, he went to jail for being part of this scheme. so, willwillie, i mean, he s no lying about that. he actually got sent to jail. this was one of the reasons why. because he helped what did ron desantis say? he arranged a hush money payment to a porn star. so, yeah, it s interesting that bragg s office thought so little of trump ally robert costello s testimony, they didn t even call right. anybody back to repute it. it was, i guess, just a big nothing burger. that was the thing. michael cohen was put on standby in case the d.a. s office needed