conspiracy nuts as they told their story. keep in mind this is the second hearing at the ways and means committee in the house. this is the second hearing they have held into irs abuses the first one took place quite some time ago. it was spurred by these initial complaints. it was during the campaign. in the end of course it went nowhere because seemed so completely implausible. this never happened. it has been compared to abuses during the nixon administration but keep in mind the evidence during that period 40 years ago was the administration was trying to target its enemies using the irs. i don t think there has ever been evidence of wide scale targeting that actually happened like you re seeing here. martha: yeah. we have heard incredible stories. we interviewed one of these folks yesterday here who talked about, you know, ultimately it was the fbi who she claims started looking into what they were doing with this organization. and one of the things that think people need to sort
reaction, i will say something that will probably offend some of the people watching this. it s important we get those pictures out. if they are ugly or brutal, so be it. i remember during the first gulf war the united states unintentionally bombed the bunker with women and children in it, a tragic thing. in iraq and the middle east, people stood up, said, wow, you americans are finally serious, you re willing to do tough things, even at the risk of this. this is important to get out, sends the message to terrorists, sends the message to government, the united states is playing hardball with a bunch of people who only understand that. it s important to get this out, not simply to deal with the conspiracy nuts but basically send the message, we understand what we re involved with. this is not a. is easy thing, we are prepared to do what we have to and get the pictures out. the message it sends is you cannot hide, there is no place
and that has not happened. i think we re looking at different things, then. because i see republicans calling out the president every day on this and they re doing it not just to the republican base, it s independents. it s even soft democrats who don t like this bill. you look at the cbs poll, 60% of americans want republicans to keep fighting on this. and that includes 42% of democrats. and that s a fight we re going to continue. and if only the republicans would actually fight to get rid of the special interests instead of repealing expanded coverage. that would be great. there was a letter today, posted on talking points memo. it was from a reader of talking points memo. it s a letter that yielded the by far doubled the number of hits in the history of that website and has been sort of all over the internet today, effectively. and it s hyperlinked on hypocrisy, hate and hyperbole in the republican party. dear skoifrs, get to work, drain the swamp of the conspiracy nuts, bald-fa