republican party. we watch donald trump go against the mainstream of his party. conservative orthodoxy. i remember being on the plane with him in august of 2015. i said are you a populist? how do you define yourself ideologically? he said costa, i m common sense. he made news because he was breaking away from the gop. that s why a lot of people in the party say he s the first independent president of the united states because he s not really a republican at his core. hugh, is he? i think he is. i think he will become one. i can binge watch those clips forever. i love watching donald trump say if it funds abortion. the nuclear. i was sitting next to katy on the floor of cleveland and he brought up the supreme court. biggest christmas present that will unify republicans and democrats will be his supreme court appointment. i think he s going to deliver. he s becoming a conservative. he is becoming one.
while he would talk about something like medicare or would talk about something like health care reform, he wouldn t realize what he was describing. that s what got him into trouble especially with the republicans. he was often going against the long-established republican talking points and platforms. that s where the inconsistencies rose. when he would try and dial it back and say that s not what i believe, it s oftentimes what he said in the aftermath of the comments that made it a little murkier than it may have seem initially. robert, it s trump priorities versus republican priorities, right. i think it was funny, katy, that you said trump heard himself through the republicans, not the voters. republican leaders. that s going to happen in this first 100 days. i think health care and medicare is where we may see the most. 2016 was the year of donald trump s victory. it was also the year of the shattering of the ideological consensus within the republican party. interview afte
conservative orthodoxy. i remember being on the plane with him in august of 2015. i said, are you a populist? how do you define yourself ideologically? he said, costa, i m common sense. he made news for breaking away from the gop. people in the party privately say he s probably the first independent president of the united states because he s not really a republican at his core. hugh, is he? i think he is. i think he will become one. i can binge watch those clips forever. i mean, i love watching donald trump use things like if it funds the abortion, the abortion like the nuclear. i was standing next to him, next to the articles. i was next to katy on the floor of cleveland when he brought up in his speech the supreme court. the biggest applause line. the biggest christmas present that the unify the conservatives and republicans will be his supreme court appointment. i think he s going deliver. i think he s becoming a conservative. he isn t one, but he s becoming one because t
primaries. donald trump didn t run a classic conservative republican race. so when he comes out with a position like a 35% tariff which i think to him is a moving the gold post negotiating position you re going to see many republicans in congress who are from conservative orthodoxy who say no, not for us. would you support a 35% tariff? i d like to let this thing play out. i would like to see donald trump see what he can accomplish by moving the goalpost, by negotiating differently with foreign allies, foreign nations, and see where we end up. i would like to see better trade deals if possible, i have always been a free trader but i don t mind bringing change to the way things are being done. let s talk about air force one. you say trump s move to cancel the order is refreshing. explain. here s what i think is going on. for all the years i was in washington, 21 years, you get used to a certain way. it s always been done that way, cost overruns always happen, it takes longer a
fernand, tell me what you think. might this alines work? might it happen? it might, richard. at the very end, it s interesting. an approach that in essence goes against conservative orthodoxy. believe it or not the infrastructure bill is exactly what paul ryan in many segments of the republican conservative base don t want at all. interesting, earlier steve bannon wanted trillions in infrastructure. could be something the democrats might strategically do, certainly help a lot of americans and get the economy moving but break the philosophical rule of the republican party. other issues you believe they could work across the aisle with, if you will? what they need to do more than anything else is buildable economic-based message. look, for all the policy successes that barack obama had in being elected president in