congressman lu, let me start with you. can you give me your reasoning for not going? thank you, chris, for that question and it s an honor to be on your show with the hakim j f jeffries. donald trump won the election but i cannot normalize his bigoted statements, he abeing taed gold star parents, john mccain, latinos and african-americans and now john lewis. do i stand with donald trump or john lewis and i m standing with john lewis. are you doing something that is toxic or destructive to american s basic institutional character when you re doing something like this? what makes america great is that unlike russia, we don t make people watch parades or ceremonies. keep in mind, nothing is happening in terms of vote casts or policies being enacted.
lewis, as historic as he is, to have done this. the other piece is, chuck, that barack obama should step up as well and call it what it is. it s wrong what is happening. it s wrong how some of these democrats are treating president-elect trump. trump marked today s holiday at a meeting with martin luther king iii and pressed trump to make it easier for americans to vote. lewis, for his part, urged young african-american men to stand by their beliefs at an event honoring martin luther king jr. so i say to you, young men, you must have courage. you must be bold. and never, ever give up when you know that you are right. joining me now, democratic representative ted lu of california says he will not attend and a member of the house democratic leadership who says he s undecided whether he ll be there on friday.
conspiracy charge. but jared kushner also has liability as well as pal manifort. they were given that same scheme chain before they showed up to that meeting. when they showed up at that meeting that, would complete a conspiracy charge. all right. i want to have you stay with us if you koshgs congressman. we ll keep you here and bring in michelle bernard, president of the bernard center for women politics and public poll sichlt herb london, president of the london center for policy research and awe thofr the book leading from behind, the obama doctrine and retreat from international affairs. and former pentagon official rosa brooks. i m going to actually start with you, herb london. welcome to the show. i believe this is your first time on. so let s start with where we just left off with congressman lu. he has said that meeting with a foreign official, an attempt to derive a material benefit it from, meaning what they re calling opposition research which, of course, we know that pe