w. bush. glen, let me get to you about all this. how much does mueller know in all this? the interesting part of the buzzfeed reporting is that cohen is not the source. at one point, it s cited there are two law enforcement officials but if we were to assume that the report is true, which we haven t independently verified, but they have access to trump organization e-mails, text memssages and other documents, it would make me think surely the president in the position of being the president would not have put something like this in writing. so how much do you think mueller actually knows? so, i was really interested by that portion of the buzzfeed reporting, that said this information came to the mueller investigation by way of internal trump organization e-mails, text messages, and collateral interviews of other people. what does that tell us? it didn t come by way of michael cohen saying, the president told me to lie and then the mueller team, a position i ve been in as a career pr
probe. for the first time, reporting that donald trump directed someone to break the law. reportedly telling michael cohen to lie to congress, specifically about his contacts with russia. we re going cover this story from all angles. donald trump s attorney general pick saying this kind of action would be a crime, and one of the senators who questioned him joins me live on the program tonight. plus, trump family s involvement in the moscow project, what trump was saying publicly about russia when he was prooiftdivately seeking thi. donald trump told michael cohen to lie to congress and to say negotiations for the trump tower moscow ended months earlier than they actually did. now, in order to hide trump s involvement in the project and trump was very involved with at least ten face-to-face meetings with cohen about the deal, the story also adds that its source two federal law enforcement officials. nbc news has not confirmed the report independently.
find corroborating information to either support or refute, knock down what cohen is saying. the reporting indicates that this first came to the mueller team s attention by virtue of all that other evidence and basically, they already knew. they caught cohen red handed, lying to congress, and they asked him about it, and indeed, he confirmed, i did it at the direction of the president. that takes on a whole different flavor by way of reliable evidence. richard, let me get your quick thoughts on the general reaction to the report. what do you make of the sequencing of how the time line has been painted with the revelations that glenn also pointed out? well, only robert mueller knows all the facts but it s quite clear that there is corroborating evidence in addition to the word of michael cohen. and we ll find out what that evidence is in due time. but we need to remember that lying to congress is a felony, instructing your lawyer to lie
there must be some evidence that michael cohen has about misconduct by donald trump and that explains mr. trump president trump s behavior. otherwise, he could leave this person, who s set to go to prison in march, and not respond or overreact to all of it, and so i think what we just heard from the congresswoman and what we re going to hear, i think, through the process is how does congress pull on these threads. one more point, before you let me go, as they say, i thought it was very notable that mr. davis today said he can t speak to this because it s the heart of the mueller probe. that tells you that we are learning, in a few leaks, about the type of things that mueller may have a lot more evidence on. all right, ari melber, we appreciate your time on your night off. as i said, any time you want, it s your show, my friend. you can call in any time. thank you, amon, and thanks for your work. and with me now is former federal prosecutor glen and richard painter, chief white
he s trying to flip it off, it didn t bother me with his hat on. of course this bothered him. this number one fixer all these years doing all the dirty work, the guy knows everything. and i don t want to go righting to the salacious. but do we believe all the information he was buying from david picker involved only karen mcdougal? are we going to hear about more, bim bow eruptions? there so much he s been privy to personally, professionally, the organization and perhaps the foundation. i think trump s got to be worried about everything he knows that cohen knows about him. i mean this is a guy he knows to when he s in trouble. every time we ve had battles with trump over the years, cohen was the guy with the meaning i never met with trump that cohen wasn t in the room. so when you look at he was the