to medicaid? is that what you do, wean them off the benefits? i worked in the program that did that, that we took people in public housing and helped them to become self sufficient. i would like to see more of those kinds of programs be available to people rather than having them be dependent on what they get from the government. but the programs you re describing, were they funded by state dollars? city dollars? it was actually mostly hud money. it was housing and urban development. government money. it was a program designed by jack kemp, and it was called family self sufficiency. okay. it was it was pretty effective. we actually did get people actually off of welfare and into homes. government programming. a government program. have you gi vven any thoughto discretionary spending? you have to raise taxes or cut