0 opposite what says a year later when he denounces the church and leaves his church there. gregg: right. i think that it s that sort of disonance what we hear one place and what we hear in another, way he speaks in one place and speak in another, that could be very disconcert fog are a lot of people who got behind him because he was not going to sort of be this divisive figure. gregg: now, charlie, there s another clip. this is from yesterday and this is vice president joe biden, and he basically admits in front of this audience and television cameras that the middle class has been buried under the last four years. of course under an obama administration. and then the response from his challenger, the vice-presidential candidate, paul ryan. take a listen. all kidding aside, with all the boos, we can stop all the malarkey, this is deadly ernest, man. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last fo