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have to spend 80 hours going over e-mails. you would rather spend possibly a year in jail than 80 hours i m not going to jail. you think i m going to jail? well, maybe. msnbc s katy tur spoke to sam nunberg this afternoon and joins me right now. sorry than. let me ask you this. what is going on here? other than the chair falling? other than the chair falling. listen, sam is it s a character. and he has always been a character inside trump world. a lot of what he says you have to confirm. all of what he says you have to confirm. some of it is far-flung and some things do result in solid reporting that can get backed up by multiple other sources. he went in to the special counsel interview about a week ago. came out of it and said on this network that it was not a witch-hunt, that it was a good use of taxpayer money, that it did not waste his time.

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