extreme political organization that existed in american history. brian: hate to break it to you. it s not ultra maga. it s not maga. it s both parties. they are both at fault. i thought karl rove put it brilliantly in the wall street journal. in 2005 when he was with president bush 43, 31 members objected to certifying ohio s electors. they had no reason to. they just decide protest joe ohio. vice president joe biden banging his gavel when democrats were raising objections while certifying the electoral results for donald trump s victory in 2016. i object because people are horrified.