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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20211126 02:32:00

and just ask that it be kept under wraps until we can get him secured. i mean, we negotiated that. it was like, listen, don t get me involved in this. i want to do this for the family. this guy s dangerous. so until you get handcuffs on him, you can t involve me. reporter: but evans knew, even if he did arrest the guy, a mystery woman testifying about something an ex-boyfriend told her wouldn t be enough. i can imagine a prosecutor saying, well, i can t just put her on the stand, his attorney will come along and say, she s full of it. yeah, and in this particular case it s, yeah. you know what? that in itself is not gonna do it, nor should it. we re still in a situation where this has to come from him. reporter: him, meaning shane ragland. evans told her they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did, otherwise what jury would buy such a ludicrous motive for murder? there was only one way, he told her, she d have to wear a wire.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20211126 10:32:00

don t get me involved. i want to do this for the family. this guy is dangerous. but until you get handcuffs on him, you can t involve me. evans knew even if he arrested the guy, a mystery woman testifying about something an ex-boyfriend told her, it wouldn t be enough. i can imagine the prosecutor saying, i can t just put her on the stand. his attorney will come along and say, she s full of it. yeah, and in this particular case it s, yeah. you know what? that in itself is not gonna do it, nor should it. we re still in a situation where this has to come from him. him, meaning shane ragland. evans told her they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did, otherwise what jury would buy such a ludicrous motive for murder? there was only one way, he told

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211031 05:32:00

it was like, listen, don t get me involved in this. this guy s dangerous. so until you get handcuffs on him, you can t involve me. but evans knew, even if he did arrest the guy, a mystery woman testifying about something an ex-boyfriend told her wouldn t be enough. i can imagine a prosecutor saying, well, i can t just put her on the stand, his attorney will come along and say, she s full of it. yeah, and in this particular case it s, yeah. you know what? that in itself is not gonna do it, nor should it. we re still in a situation where this has to come from him. him, meaning shane ragland. evans told her they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did, otherwise what jury would buy such a ludicrous motive for murder? there was only one way, he told her, she d have to wear a wire. she wasn t very happy with that obviously. i should think not. yeah. she asked me if i

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:48:00

about a lot of stuff that, you know, i think most people would consider, like, quite horrifying and shocking. you know, i think as a general rule, often if the evidence against you in this case it s, like, 400,000 text messages, hundreds of hours of wiretaps. you know, i m not sure there are many other defenses available besides entrapment because there s a lot of evidence. you know, that said, i think for someone who doesn t, you know, follow these cases and these kinds of cases closely, that the role of the fbi in helping to really work with these people, befriend these people, text these people at all hours of the day and night, be with them all the time is quite huge. yeah. yeah. and the question that lingers on your reporting is but for those informants, does this plot come together and do you not catch people who would have done

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:32:00

least meet face to face. busts anymore than that, maybe not. there was like, listen built, get me involved in. this this guy is changed dangerous. so until you get handcuffs on him, you can t involve me. but evans knew, even if you did arrests the guy, a mystery woman testifying about something and ex-boyfriend told her. wouldn t be enough. i can imagine a prosecutor saying, well i can t just put her on the stand. his attorney will come along and say she s full of. it yeah, and in this particular case it s, that in itself is not gonna do it. nor should. we re still in a situation where this has to come from him. him meaning shane ragland. evidence told her they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did. otherwise which jury would buy such a ludicrous motive for murder? there was only one way, he told her. she d have to wear a wire.

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