that is the hub of the wheel. the hub is the middle, right? everything i know about those charts i saw from hub, spoke, rim, i got it. and it comes back to russia and money and regardless of what u.s. attorney is investigating it, it s still one department of justice and one fbi that they are sharing information with one another. and they are following all of these leads. i m confident in that. the scope and the reflex for criminality is, to me, what s coming together in the shuttering of the foundation because it operated essentially as a slush fund for the businesses and the campaign. the conduct that s revealed through michael cohen and his roles as a witness in the trump organization. and the lies that are told as recently as on the sunday show where giuliani, about business with russia. if you wanted your guy to get one thing right, wouldn t you want him to stop lying about russia? i would think so.
previously been known for being super sophisticated about american politics. and yet one of the things the senate report said was that it actually was fairly smart about the way that it directed its messages. you can t have it both ways. brad pascal who ran the tech side of it went on 60 minutes and boasted about for a rag tag campaign whose motto was we couldn t collude with our press office. we couldn t do lecollude with r. you figure out the most difficult aspect of campaigning, which is micro targeting. no one believes that. no one believes the trump campaign wasn t no common sense person than believe the trump campaign wasn t getting help or providing assistance, wasn t providing sort of cultural guide posts for this information. but i want to step back and i think this is a key thing about mueller. while he s looking abroad, looking domestically, the longer term message or impact i see is all of these different states
as a trump christmas ornament in the store in the next week or two. the bottom line is there is no question now that they were in business dealings with russia and political dealings with russia. russia helped them win the campaign. new reports out about russian money going into the nra, about russian social media impacting the campaign. it s just there. they are going to have to own it and deal with the consequences of it. chuck, i had this theory that because what we ve had to cover as a methodical fact-based, opaque investigation, we in the media have been too timid about saying what ron just did. but probably it s because you have standards. i m not suggesting ron doesn t. thanks, chuck. appreciate that. we can take this. no, let me explain. you have to be bound by fact. it s okay for ron or for i or anyone around this table to speculate about the facts. but when you re reporting the facts, you have to be bound by them.
morning argued that such a move would betray kurdish allies who have fought alongside american troops in syria and who could find themselves under attack in a military offensive. if you need any more proof that trump made today s decision unilater unilaterally, the washington post writes this. the decision signals a halt to an extended american ground campaign against the islaj state and upends plans across the u.s. government articulated by senior officials as recently as this week. for an ongoing mission to stabilize areas once controlled by the militants. but donald trump disagreed. this morning he tweeted this. we ve defeated isis in syria. my only reason for being there during the trump presidency. the whiplash was best described by josh rogen who writes for the washington post, on a piece entitled trump undermines his entire national security team.
move today that he s accelerated his conflict with the military, how is that going over inside the pentagon? i wouldn t want to speak for inside the pentagon. i think basically, you ended up the primary national security players are the pentagon, cia, state department and treasury. and they are very professional people. they are career people. they know exactly what they re doing. they have series of experience. and they are running into an operation in the white house in which the president really won t read their material. won t take complicated briefings. has no background and yet will impulsively make a decision. it s hard to know where all this is going to go but so far it s rebounding to our disadvantage in terms of keeping the american people safer. there s still a couple of thousand isis fighters in syria. and our kurdish allies who we re now going to abandon. and that s another message to our allies to not trust us.