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Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191215 16:22:00

misdemeanor. on tuesday, articles of impeachment was announced, standing behind the podium was congresswoman maxine waters, the first to call for the removal of the man in the white house. congresswoman maxine waters is joining me now for your moment of maxine. good morning. good morning joy, so delighted to be with you. thank you very much. i started off this morning with a text i got from a friend of the fact that donald trump is not so much of the o.j. of president, the conclusion seems to be for gone in the senate. it is like one of those old 1950s trial is in the south whe the jury went in 20 minutes of acquitted. it seems more like that. when you see a senator, a united states senator like lindsey graham bragged and laughed of the idea that the constitutional process you are involved in is going to die in the senate as a

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191215 16:53:00

and over again. and that is what is going on here. and yes, that is speaker pelosi and something that is tough cookies. and so is my law school, if i may interject, because he is from my law school at the american university of law. and this is and elijah cummings school of law. and good for maryland to producing those tough people. and maryland again. they produced nancy pelosi and she could win every week of this president, because she runs rings around her. and look at what she did this week, and took a divided caucus and united them in totality behind impeachment, and got behind two sleekly addressed articles of impeachment, and at the same time she brings together the agreement on

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191215 15:41:00

and that your actions really should be an expression of your call to service. and so i think she s constantly trying to remind the president and all of us, really, that the presidency should be used as a force for good as a force for unity, as a force for healing, and she ll never stop praying for that to happen. i think part of her effectiveness is that at times she seems to respect the presidency more than the current occupant of that office. is that part of what s behind, you know, this idea that she hates him makes no sense if you think about the fact that she just did a deal on trade with the white house that republicans in the senate don t even want to do. she s willing to do that and announce it the same day they did this usmca deal that labor likes, that a lot of union folks like with donald trump. do you get the sense that her feeling toward trump is that if possible she would like to sort of fix his presidency into a normal one, or is she more interested in seeing him gone?

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191215 15:05:00

impeached. he was out there railing against president clinton when president clinton was impeached for lying to officials who questioned him about a sexual affair. something that for most americans was a trivial reason to impeach a president. this was lindsey graham back in 1998. and here he is back in 1998. i know what people want to do with this case. i know they want to get it over. i know many of them don t want the president to be impeached. but i have got a duty far greater than just getting to the next election. the problem is that i am expecting the other side to engage the facts, and they haven t. and i am just blown away by that. i m going to play just one more for the congresswoman. here s another sound bite of lindsey graham back in 1998. some people have said i won t vote for impeachment. some house members have said i will not vote for an impeachment.

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191215 15:21:00

so if there was anything these impeachment hearings have made clear it s that one side of the aisle is grounded in reality while the other side is devin nunes peddling bizarre, disproved and russian intelligence sourced claims about the steele dossier and how the obama deep state was out to keep president trump from becoming president. that argument became tougher to sustain this week after the justice department s inspector general concluded the fbi was not motivated by political bias when they investigated the very real and very troubling contacts between trump s campaign and russian operatives. investigators did not rely on the research from former british spy christopher steele when it launched its investigation. the origins of the now-infamous steele dossier go back to 2016 when christopher steele was contacted by the private intelligence firm fusion gps to do some research on donald trump for a client. it s important to remember that

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