are still extremely low. what to make of it? let s bring in dr tom frieden he s former head of the us center for disease control and he s now president of resolve to save lives. you are very welcome to the programme, doctor. let me first talk about how concerned you are about this particular variant because i think so many of us have been through this roller coaster of waves of different variants, that we are always wondering how concerned should we be? the always wondering how concerned should we be? always wondering how concerned should we be? , should we be? the american baseball -la er said should we be? the american baseball player said it should we be? the american baseball player said it is should we be? the american baseball player said it is deja should we be? the american baseball player said it is deja vu should we be? the american baseball player said it is deja vu all should we be? the american baseball player said it is deja vu all over- player said it is d
denazification, which is essentially a red herring because it does not. a red herring because it does not ewist a red herring because it does not exist and a red herring because it does not exist and there a red herring because it does not exist and there is a red herring because it does not exist and there is other- a red herring because it does not exist and there is other things, l exist and there is other things, which exist and there is other things, which i exist and there is other things, which i think exist and there is other things, which i think neutrality - exist and there is other things, which i think neutrality is - exist and there is other things, which i think neutrality is the l exist and there is other things, i which i think neutrality is the main one and which i think neutrality is the main one and zelensky which i think neutrality is the main one and zelensky has already- one and zelensky has already indicated one and zelensky has already indicate
should be? well, this is a very important should be? well, this is a very important question should be? well, this is a very important question because i should be? well, this is a very i important question because again, should be? well, this is a very - important question because again, we don t want to create a situation where any state, including russia, feels that the resort to nuclear, chemical or biological weapons is a normal too of war and so, if he uses that and gets away with it, that is a disaster, notjust for ukraine, but for all of us. so we need to warn him of that. what happened today was kind of interesting. nato did not do that, nato did not warn putin off chemical or biological weapons. the g7 did, which sort of steers you toward sanctions round that, ratherthan steers you toward sanctions round that, rather than some kind of forcible response, which is not going to mean much to putin. president biden on a national basis also warned him of this, which does carry
also can t are standing against the west. and i also can t help but be reminded of the failures of the trump administration here. i certainly cannot administration here. i certainly cannot blame the problem of north korea cannot blame the problem of north korea in cannot blame the problem of north korea in general on trumpet, because it started korea in general on trumpet, because it started so korea in general on trumpet, because it started so long ago, but he did have it started so long ago, but he did have this it started so long ago, but he did have this much heralded two year at diplomacy, have this much heralded two year at diplomacy, which many people thought was going diplomacy, which many people thought was going to be a failure from the start was going to be a failure from the start and was going to be a failure from the start and it was going to be a failure from the start and it turned out it was, so this is start and it turned out it was, so this i
position. alliance management, to stake out a position, perhaps somewhat ahead of what other position, perhaps somewhat ahead of what other allies are willing to do, in order what other allies are willing to do, in order to what other allies are willing to do, in orderto draw what other allies are willing to do, in order to draw the conversation in that direction, without stomping your feet that direction, without stomping your feet and insisting that everybody at the same view as you do. , , ., do. yes, i understand. let me turn also to you. do. yes, i understand. let me turn also to you, dahlia do. yes, i understand. let me turn also to you, dahlia scheindlin. - also to you, dahlia scheindlin. there was another question that came up there was another question that came up and i would be curious for kurt volker s view on this as well, does zelensky need to cede territory talking about trying to get a resolution to the conflict? dahlia scheindlin, what do you think about th