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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210918 07:48:00

interviews particularly interesting. because, yes, in fact, there were other persons of interest. and another man they went to visit did have an alibi for friday but not saturday. that man happened to be a close friend of the victim. his name was larry hagenbuch. how seriously did you look at larry? we looked at him very seriously. hagenbuch was the one who encouraged bryan to move from kansas to montana. but larry wasn t a stable man just then. his wife was leaving him. he d been drinking a lot. he d tried to commit suicide a month before the murder using animal medication he d gotten from bryan. in fact, it was dr. rein who intervened to help save larry. and here s the thing, detectives had heard that larry seemed to know intimate details of the crime scene which had not been made public, as if he was right there when it

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210918 08:49:00

the implication, of course, that he was seeing and having sex with someone in addition to ann. another potential suspect added to the pot. we re just saying tom may not be the only ex-boyfriend out there who would have been upset with mr. rein. that, in essence, was tom jaraczeski s defense. anyone but tom. did you kill him? no, i didn t. do you think larry hagenbuch did kill the doctor? you know, i have no idea who killed bryan. i know what it s like to be an innocent person, wrongly accused. and i m not going to sit here and accuse somebody else. the end was coming very soon. coming up tom jaraczeski was the only person with the opportunity, the only person with the motive to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210918 07:25:00

have married him. and then she had that heart to heart with dr. rein. he s like, you re too young to be settling down and somebody telling you what to do. how did that strike you when he said that? i agreed with him. like, why have i been with that guy all these years? yep. it made me see that i would be better without it. because it hadn t been a good relationship for a while. i had a reason now to move on and let go of that. and she was going to tell tom as soon as she got up the nerve. but then, oh, boy, dr. rein left a message on her answering machine at the apartment she shared with tom, who, of course, heard the message. he called me up and asked me what the hell s going on. well, a boyfriend would want to know what the hell is going on, right? yeah. and when she told him? he started crying and saying

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210918 07:03:00

and the way his shirt was ripped and just the blood on the floor, it just it looked like a struggle? yeah. it wasn t a suicide. but the deputies went about their work as they saw fit. and thus, on sunday, july 14th, 1996, they clouded a mystery that has come down all the way to us. there were so many different theories, different suspects, and so much conflicting evidence, it was your classic whodunit. or perhaps your classic nightmare. i d lay awake at night and ask god to give me some insight here. where do i go now? the victim, the man on the floor, was bryan rein, veterinarian. charlene and teresa s big brother. he was my brother. he was my best friend. he was my business partner. they grew up together in scott city, kansas. we shared bedrooms. we shared clothing. everybody shared. bryan was the eldest. so what kind of an older brother

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210918 07:23:00

family went into a tailspin at the news of his death. and when they heard that somebody murdered him? you kind of fell apart after that, huh? yes. it was difficult to figure out where to go, what to do. bryan s mom was practically paralyzed in her grief. and so, much of the dreadful work that demands to be done after such a death fell on teresa. i can remember sitting through the funeral and sitting there thinking to myself, i am so tired. i just want to go to bed. and maybe that played a role in teresa s mood. because on that july day in 1996 when dr. rein was buried in his hometown in kansas and a large contingent of montana ns made the trip to say good-bye, among them was that young woman from geraldine, the one who had gone over and cleaned his house, the

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