aed, because they save lives. the response to damar s injury was able to bring our nation together for a moment. let s remember that feeling of unity and use it to make sure we can save the next life, as well. some genuine heroes taking us off the air tonight. i m wishing you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. we ll see you at the end of tomorrow tomorrow we start tonight with breaking news on your times, interview not don s top donors will plan in law andrea kushner. times reports that in an interview last month the special counsel focused on whether trump had privately acknowledged that he had lost the 2020 election, in other words, when trump claimed the election was rigged, did he know he was lying? did trump have corrupt intent when he allegedly tried to subvert the election? also today, jack smith senior, assistant special counsel, a lawyer named tom windham, was spotted leaving the d.c. federal
new york times. special counsel jack smith has been defeat donald trump s son-in-law and former top white house aide jared kushner. the times reports that in an interview last month, the special counsel focused on whether trump had privately acknowledged that he had lost the 2020 election. in other words, when trump claimed the election was rigged, did he know he was lying? did trump have corrupt intent when he allegedly tried to subvert the election? also today, checks myths senior assistant special counsel, a lawyer named tom wyndham, was let ventral courthouse for the second time this week. mr. wyndham is one of the top prosecutors working on the general sixth probe. that was a role he played before jack smith was appointed special counsel. this afternoon, mister wyndham was back in court, indicating that the current jury is amazing. with all of these new details, it really does seem like jack smith might be getting that much closer to potentially and i think trump over hi
president to be able to see this to a conclusion. i mean, you do one term and they reverse it when they come in [applause] youn t can t have it be reversed. you got to have humility. you can t be prideful, it can t be just about you. when he says eight years, every time i hear it i wince, because i say if it takes eight years to turn this around, then you don t want him as your president. paul: let s bring in wall street journal columnists and fox news contributor carl karl rove, he served as southeastern adviser the president george w. bush. karl, well co. the former president, president trump, was banging on ron desantis for months. now that the governor s in and fighting back, it s really fast and furious, a lot earlier than i can recall in previous campaigns. how is desantis doing so far? i think pretty well. you know, for example, you just showed that display and president trump dismissed desantis saying eight years by saying, you don t want that guy, because i c
thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these truly extraordinary times. we re grateful the beat with ari melber start right now. never more extraordinary than now. right j hi, nicolle. thank you so much. good to see you. welcome to the beat. tonight we are here as a nation. everyone got up, everyone started their day. if you re on the east coast you re ending your day, and everyone s doing just about fine you can have the america and do what you re supposed to and not worry about who gets as long as it s faithfully and fairly executed. we re a day out from what happened yesterday and everything s okay. the reality, though, is one that is different for defendant donald trump this is his first full day deal welcome an open criminal case against him not his lawyer, not his cfo, not one of his many aides. this is something he never experienced himself, and only he can say how much he thought about or emphasized with all the other many people who wer
the beat with ari melber starts now. you were speaking to donald trump s former lawyer, now grand jury witness last night i spoke to his current lawyer, who blames everything just about on the former lawyer. i m curious what you think of it all, including your skills as an established political communicator what we re hearing coming out of this team? well, first of all, i m so glad to get to talk to you i described you behind your back as masterful it was a brilliant interview i watched it when i got home i think that what he is doing is what you said. he was engaged in political communications his defense as he described it to you was that he would have paid it either way because melania would be mad well, the federal crime isn t being charged by sdny. this is a state investigation. it doesn t seem like an apples to apples kind of comment. what i think is about to happen in this country is a giant debate about whether this was just a foot foul, sort of a b.s. kind of t