all of this, maybe. one final point though, my third point tonight about this story. trump knows he s in trouble, and when he is in trouble, his go move s racism. being racist. have a listen to what he said on fox this past week, when even host sean hannity raise the issue of classified documents. he had seven or eight boxes in chinatown, in washington d. c., where nobody even speaks english and chinatown. china town is very, it s china. nobody speaks english in chinatown. disgusting stuff, also totally false about joe biden. i for 1 am fed up with his normalizing, or even just accepting both donald trump s alleged criminality, and his brazen racism. joining me now, david harrison, civil rights attorney former prosecutor, and a cnbc contributor. and barbara mcquade, msnbc legal analyst for the u.s. attorney in michigan, and a law professor at the university of michigan law school. thank you both for coming back on the show. barb, what do we make of the news that the grand jury in t
good to be with you, i m katy tur. the new york times is reporting rudy giuliani is the target of a criminal investigation, the criminal into attempts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. we re going to have much more on this breaking story in a moment. first, we are living in a scary time. over the weekend both the fbi and the department of homeland security issued a joint intelligence bulletin according to two senior law enforcement officers who spoke with nbc news. often these sorts of warnings are about threats from abroad. this time they re warning about a threat from within and it s not just from some specific extremist group operating on the fringe of society with a rogue leader but from a broad swath of americans who believe they re acting in the interests of a