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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 04:09:00

And trump should ve been charged by the department of justice by the same crime when he stopped being president. that s what should ve happened. and it s just one more thing that we have, we always move the goalposts for trump. and we haven t been willing to take him on. and, i will say, i was kind of iffy about this, i don t think that this is critical as the january six case, or as the case in georgia, or the mar-a-lago case, but the threat made may even want to prosecute it more but you can look at it in this umbrella, it is the beginning of him being willing to cheat to win an election, that s basically what, it is. it is the first time that we know that he did that. to cheat to win an election. it fits, you know, it s that and then there is threatening ukraine. if they don t help him cheat to win an election. and then there is all the cheating after the election, the fake electors and the attempt to pressure pence to do something illegal in order to cheat to win an election. so it

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 04:08:00

Now attempting to subvert the rule of law in favor of someone who has clearly broken the law. i think that this is very telling, but i also appreciate how da bragg has dealt with these very unusual, and very unprecedented circumstances. cynthia, use you just noticed how you think bragg needs to charge trump. you talked about how vital the case is, and that it s bulletproof. or strong, in the steely and age. i don t think we should be saying that it s bulletproof. i think we should be excited at the fact that this i made, hush money payment is ultimately a situation that could have alter the 2016 outcome. maybe. we do not know. talk about the stakes here? well, i mean, here is a thing. bragg has been put in this difficult decision. because the department of justice did not do its job. colin went to jail for this crime, federal crime.

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